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• 1. Kaus  |  February 11th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

  “Thomas Jefferson couldn’t get elected today” becasue of the religious right? Come on!
  1. And the liberal left couldn’t get elected today without the prison vote and illegal aliens with falsified drivers licenses?
  2. Jefferson wouldn’t have gotten elected because he was a slave owner.
  3. Pat Robertson endorsed Rudy….not exactly a Christian conservative.
  4. Christian conservatives are fine with low taxes and a balanced budget. I doubt Dobson would endorse George Bush if he was still running for president.

• 2. Pat Cunningham  |  February 11th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

  You’re saying that without the prison vote (whatever that is) and votes from illegal immigrants, liberals can’t get elected? What are you smoking, man? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. The turnouts in this year’s Democratic primaries are running at least twice as large as those in Republican primaries. Is the prison vote and the illegal immigrant vote making the difference? Come on.

• 3. Kaus  |  February 11th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

  Pat, my comment on point 1 and the prison vote was sarcasm…I ended it with a question mark. Just as dumb as your comment on the religious right voting for Christians….

• 4. MR. BASEBALL  |  February 11th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

  You can also include Ben Franklin with Jefferson. As a young man Franklin fled Boston for Philadelphia because of the religious intolerance of the puritans in Boston. He was an agnostic most of his life, but did believe in a supreme being in his old age, along the same lines as Jefferson.

• 5. MR. BASEBALL  |  February 11th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

  I also agree with you Pat that Jefferson could not get elected today if he were open about his religious beliefs. An avowed agnostic, atheist or Muslim wouldn’t have a chance.

• 6. Kaus  |  February 12th, 2008 at 7:04 am

  Mr. Baseball, Muslims do not fit into the above argument. I suppose you prerfer a Muslim in office ahead of Jews and Christians because…..because it is cool to bash American values.

• 7. Pat Cunningham  |  February 12th, 2008 at 7:34 am

  Kaus, you are way over the top. What makes you think a Muslim in elected office is going to “bash American values”? True American values include religious tolerance. Your anti-Muslim stance makes you the anti-American in this argument.

• 8. hokumboy  |  February 12th, 2008 at 7:36 am

  What???
  Kaus,,,,,
  a Muslim can’t have “American values”??
  You better let Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Dave Chappelle, Ahmad Rashad, Shaquille O’Neal about that.
  Oh,,, maybe Muhammad Ali too!
  Kaus, if you weren’t so funny you’d be scary!

• 9. Kaus  |  February 12th, 2008 at 7:37 am

  I believe your original post was in regards to religous people like Thomas Jefferson (the slave owner guy) not being able to get elected in the current times…..I was just educate your readers that Muslims are indeed religious and therefore it isn’t a valid reference.

• 10. Pat Cunningham  |  February 12th, 2008 at 7:55 am

  Thanks for the help, Kaus. But the point of my post was that Thomas Jefferson WAS NOT sufficiently religious, according to the self-appointed guardians of religious orthodoxy in those times.

• 11. Kaus  |  February 12th, 2008 at 8:57 am

  Pat, due to my sloppy writing skills I stand corrected (again). I agree, Jefferson was not a Christian….and not sufficiently religious. I still disagree with your argument because of my reasoning above. An atheist can buy an election with Kool-Aid rhetoric….

  Hokumboy….Did you know that Kareem and Ali were not born muslims….they were born in Christian environments and changed their names. I was not trying to offend any American Muslims. Is Shaquille really muslim? No way.

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