Comments on: Lincoln, Douglas, Gibson and Stephanopoulos — two statesmen and two doofuses http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/ Pat Cunningham offers an unabashedly liberal perspective on national politics. A note of caution: The language gets a litttle salty on some of the sites to which this blog links. So, don't say you weren't warned. By the way, this blog's name is inspired by the Will Rogers quote, "All politics is applesauce." Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:42:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.4 By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1599 Pat Cunningham Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:06:58 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1599 Charlie: My stuff is NOT free. You'll be receiving a bill by e-mail. And I've got goons who will break your legs if you don't pay. Charlie: My stuff is NOT free. You’ll be receiving a bill by e-mail. And I’ve got goons who will break your legs if you don’t pay.

]]> By: charlie http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1598 charlie Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:30:16 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1598 this is why i read the paper on line. it does not clutter my front yard, it is free, and i do not have to "read" it if i choose. one more reason?? pat cunningham. this is why i read the paper on line. it does not clutter my front yard, it is free, and i do not have to “read” it if i choose. one more reason?? pat cunningham.

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1594 Pat Cunningham Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:47:00 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1594 Menlo Bob: Regarding the demographics of Savage's audience, I don't have data related strictly to his program, but I saw a study that said this in general terms: "The talk radio audience is largely male, relatively young and ideologically conservative, although not necessarily Republican." Besides, I'm officially a senior citizen, so almost everybody but John McCain seems young to me. Menlo Bob: Regarding the demographics of Savage’s audience, I don’t have data related strictly to his program, but I saw a study that said this in general terms: “The talk radio audience is largely male, relatively young and ideologically conservative, although not necessarily Republican.” Besides, I’m officially a senior citizen, so almost everybody but John McCain seems young to me.

]]> By: Kaus http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1592 Kaus Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:31:28 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1592 No arguments here. He is jsut making a fast buck appealing to cretins. I do believe Rhandi Rhodes is the left's version of that loser. No arguments here. He is jsut making a fast buck appealing to cretins. I do believe Rhandi Rhodes is the left’s version of that loser.

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1588 Pat Cunningham Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:16:47 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1588 Bob: At least I refrained from repeating the widespread reports that Weiner/Savage also is a self-loathing something else (which I won't label here, but is sometimes referred to, in slang terms, as having to do with a closet). The funny thing about Savage is that he knows nothing about Islam and Arabs. He doesn't want to know. He's not a political commentator or a heavy thinker. He's an entertainer. He probably doesn't believe a word of what he says, but it sells well among the cretins who hang on his every growl and grunt. He's a political pornographer. There's always been a market for that garbage, dating back to Father Coughlin, the loony priest, in the 1930s. Bob: At least I refrained from repeating the widespread reports that Weiner/Savage also is a self-loathing something else (which I won’t label here, but is sometimes referred to, in slang terms, as having to do with a closet). The funny thing about Savage is that he knows nothing about Islam and Arabs. He doesn’t want to know. He’s not a political commentator or a heavy thinker. He’s an entertainer. He probably doesn’t believe a word of what he says, but it sells well among the cretins who hang on his every growl and grunt. He’s a political pornographer. There’s always been a market for that garbage, dating back to Father Coughlin, the loony priest, in the 1930s.

]]> By: Kaus http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1584 Kaus Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:42:27 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1584 Hey Bob...I used to listen to the diatribes of Savage..and when he gets rolling, he almost sounds like an American version of Hitler back in the early 1930s. Frightening with his hatred...but at the same time, it feels great to stir up some nationalist sentiment in the good ole USA eh? In fact, when I see old Jimmy Carter kissing up to our favorite terrorist friends in the middle east, I feel like tuning in! But his schtick gets old very fast. Too far right is as bad as too far to the left. I'd be happy just to have a capitalistic President with half a brain (sorry Bush but you don't cut it). Hey Bob…I used to listen to the diatribes of Savage..and when he gets rolling, he almost sounds like an American version of Hitler back in the early 1930s. Frightening with his hatred…but at the same time, it feels great to stir up some nationalist sentiment in the good ole USA eh? In fact, when I see old Jimmy Carter kissing up to our favorite terrorist friends in the middle east, I feel like tuning in! But his schtick gets old very fast. Too far right is as bad as too far to the left. I’d be happy just to have a capitalistic President with half a brain (sorry Bush but you don’t cut it).

]]> By: Menlo Bob http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1583 Menlo Bob Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:28:48 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1583 I believe it would be pronounced Dr. Michael Weiner. The self-loathing Jew bit is just a wee bit presumptive without citing chapter and verse--trust me, you have none. Callow youths listen to talk radio? I'll defer to your superior knowledge, but it would certainly surprise me to hear that there is such an audience. I believe it would be pronounced Dr. Michael Weiner. The self-loathing Jew bit is just a wee bit presumptive without citing chapter and verse–trust me, you have none. Callow youths listen to talk radio? I’ll defer to your superior knowledge, but it would certainly surprise me to hear that there is such an audience.

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1579 Pat Cunningham Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:27:09 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1579 Greg (Comment No. 3): Are you referring to Michael Savage, the self-loathing Jew who throws red meat to America's knuckledragging young males? I didn't know he could write. And I didn't know his listeners could read. I'm reliably informed that Savage, whose real name is Michael Weiner, has called Arabs "non-humans" and "racist, fascist bigots"; asserted that Americans would like to "drop a nuclear weapon" on any Arab country; and that "these people" in the Middle East "need to be forcibly converted to Christianity" in order to "turn them into human beings." Lovely guy. I can just see the callow youths who listen to him squirming like little pre-schoolers when he cuts loose. But no thanks, Greg, I think I'll take a pass on this pathetic creature's book. Greg (Comment No. 3): Are you referring to Michael Savage, the self-loathing Jew who throws red meat to America’s knuckledragging young males? I didn’t know he could write. And I didn’t know his listeners could read. I’m reliably informed that Savage, whose real name is Michael Weiner, has called Arabs “non-humans” and “racist, fascist bigots”; asserted that Americans would like to “drop a nuclear weapon” on any Arab country; and that “these people” in the Middle East “need to be forcibly converted to Christianity” in order to “turn them into human beings.” Lovely guy. I can just see the callow youths who listen to him squirming like little pre-schoolers when he cuts loose. But no thanks, Greg, I think I’ll take a pass on this pathetic creature’s book.

]]> By: Kaus http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1578 Kaus Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:35:50 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1578 Ain't it great when you can read Pat's blog and expand your knowledge? I feel so much smarter today! I will now spend the rest of my weekend voiding thought of Larry Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. I will take a 48 hour sabbath from reading Little Green Footbals.... Ain’t it great when you can read Pat’s blog and expand your knowledge? I feel so much smarter today! I will now spend the rest of my weekend voiding thought of Larry Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. I will take a 48 hour sabbath from reading Little Green Footbals….

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1577 Pat Cunningham Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:43:17 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/04/19/lincoln-douglas-gibson-and-stephanopoulos-two-statesmen-and-two-doofuses/#comment-1577 For once,Kaus, you're absolutely right. I have a book containing press coverage of all the Lincoln-Douglas debates. The political bias was palpable. Of course, that was back when there was no notion of independent or "objective" newspapers. Most newpapers were organs of political parties. The Founding Fathers, when they wrote Freedom of the Press into the Constitution, had no expectation that newspapers would ever be anything but partisan. Most people today don't know that. By the way, in the piece I posted, Lincoln is quoted as referring to "when I was a boy in Illinois." In reality, he never set foot in Illinois until he was 21 years old. Yet millions of Americans think he was born in Illinois. For once,Kaus, you’re absolutely right. I have a book containing press coverage of all the Lincoln-Douglas debates. The political bias was palpable. Of course, that was back when there was no notion of independent or “objective” newspapers. Most newpapers were organs of political parties. The Founding Fathers, when they wrote Freedom of the Press into the Constitution, had no expectation that newspapers would ever be anything but partisan. Most people today don’t know that.

By the way, in the piece I posted, Lincoln is quoted as referring to “when I was a boy in Illinois.” In reality, he never set foot in Illinois until he was 21 years old. Yet millions of Americans think he was born in Illinois.

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