Comments on: John McCain has his own Bill Ayers http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/ Pat Cunningham offers an unabashedly liberal perspective on national politics. A note of caution: The language gets a litttle salty on some of the sites to which this blog links. So, don't say you weren't warned. By the way, this blog's name is inspired by the Will Rogers quote, "All politics is applesauce." Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:55:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.4 By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2297 Pat Cunningham Tue, 06 May 2008 14:24:38 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2297 Thanks, Earth person. Thanks, Earth person.

]]> By: Mike Carroll http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2295 Mike Carroll Tue, 06 May 2008 13:25:46 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2295 Your approach works for me. Hey, it's your blog and you get to write the rules. I just appreciate the opportunity to debate and we have long suspected the menace to America and spawn of Martians thing. Your approach works for me. Hey, it’s your blog and you get to write the rules. I just appreciate the opportunity to debate and we have long suspected the menace to America and spawn of Martians thing.

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2293 Pat Cunningham Tue, 06 May 2008 12:58:00 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2293 Mike: All I've done is object to Kaus's lying about what's been written here. I didn't give him the boot; I only threatened. But he seems to have taken a hike. I think what I'll do is welcome him back and simply remove any future comments of his in which he lies about me or commenters. I don't mind being called a menace to America and the spawn of Martians, but I don't like being accused of writing something I haven't written. My attitude in this regard goes back several decades to when some moron falsely argued that I had written such-and-such (and put it in quote marks). It caused me a lot of trouble, but I was helpless to do much about it. I privately challenged this guy to produce, in actual newspaper form, the stuff he said I had written, but to no avail. In today's Internet age, the problem would easily have been resolved. Anyway, Kaus is welcome back; his prevarications are not. Oh, as for the security code, Mike, it's beyond my control, as are the other aspects of this blogging software. I've had complaints, for example, about the small type. Hey, I only work here. Mike: All I’ve done is object to Kaus’s lying about what’s been written here. I didn’t give him the boot; I only threatened. But he seems to have taken a hike. I think what I’ll do is welcome him back and simply remove any future comments of his in which he lies about me or commenters. I don’t mind being called a menace to America and the spawn of Martians, but I don’t like being accused of writing something I haven’t written. My attitude in this regard goes back several decades to when some moron falsely argued that I had written such-and-such (and put it in quote marks). It caused me a lot of trouble, but I was helpless to do much about it. I privately challenged this guy to produce, in actual newspaper form, the stuff he said I had written, but to no avail. In today’s Internet age, the problem would easily have been resolved. Anyway, Kaus is welcome back; his prevarications are not. Oh, as for the security code, Mike, it’s beyond my control, as are the other aspects of this blogging software. I’ve had complaints, for example, about the small type. Hey, I only work here.

]]> By: Millard Fillmore http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2292 Millard Fillmore Tue, 06 May 2008 12:48:07 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2292 Hi Pat - was not trying to excuse anything! was talking only about the hand over the candle comment. the rest is between you and him. Hi Pat - was not trying to excuse anything! was talking only about the hand over the candle comment. the rest is between you and him.

]]> By: Mike Carroll http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2290 Mike Carroll Tue, 06 May 2008 11:45:14 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2290 BTW-If I go blind trying to read that #%&*#@ Security Code I may have to consider legal action to have your Social Security check garnished. BTW-If I go blind trying to read that #%&*#@ Security Code I may have to consider legal action to have your Social Security check garnished.

]]> By: Mike Carroll http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2289 Mike Carroll Tue, 06 May 2008 11:41:51 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2289 Pat-I didn't follow this drama last night in real time and I don't intend to parse every comment made but I do feel you are being a bit tough on Kaus. Yes, he can get carried away and his writing can get a bit convoluted but I don't think he has a malignant intent. Pat-I didn’t follow this drama last night in real time and I don’t intend to parse every comment made but I do feel you are being a bit tough on Kaus. Yes, he can get carried away and his writing can get a bit convoluted but I don’t think he has a malignant intent.

]]> By: Menlo Bob http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2284 Menlo Bob Tue, 06 May 2008 06:10:26 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2284 Try as you might, this Liddy business just ain't gonna stick on to anyone currently alive and running for president. Sorry Sauce. Try as you might, this Liddy business just ain’t gonna stick on to anyone currently alive and running for president. Sorry Sauce.

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2281 Pat Cunningham Tue, 06 May 2008 02:28:47 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2281 Those of you who are trying to follow this little drama should make a note that my comment No. 18 was written before I saw Kaus's comment No. 17. And I should use this opportunity to take one more shot at Kaus for having written this: "Just clean up the Ayers statements and what you were trying to say." I ask you this, people: What in the hell is this guying talking about? What Ayers statements need cleaning up? There are none. Oh, maybe he means where I said even Ayers wouldn't be stupid enough to do Liddy's little candle trick. Well, there's nothing wrong there. I didn't defend him or praise him or call him a patriot. I just said that when it comes to candles, Ayers is not the idiot Liddy is. He's an idiot in different ways. So is Kaus. Those of you who are trying to follow this little drama should make a note that my comment No. 18 was written before I saw Kaus’s comment No. 17.

And I should use this opportunity to take one more shot at Kaus for having written this: “Just clean up the Ayers statements and what you were trying to say.”

I ask you this, people: What in the hell is this guying talking about? What Ayers statements need cleaning up? There are none.

Oh, maybe he means where I said even Ayers wouldn’t be stupid enough to do Liddy’s little candle trick. Well, there’s nothing wrong there. I didn’t defend him or praise him or call him a patriot. I just said that when it comes to candles, Ayers is not the idiot Liddy is. He’s an idiot in different ways.

So is Kaus.

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2279 Pat Cunningham Tue, 06 May 2008 02:16:02 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2279 Kaus: Here's what you wrote: "Pat, you must have served on the OJ trial with that logic. of yours. You guys glorify a bomb making anarchist and make him the patriot of Illinois." But nobody here -- not me or any of the commenters -- glorified Bill Ayers or called him a patriot. You lied, Kaus. Don't do it again. You're free, of course, to continue defending Liddy, the would-be bomber and murderer. Kaus: Here’s what you wrote: “Pat, you must have served on the OJ trial with that logic. of yours. You guys glorify a bomb making anarchist and make him the patriot of Illinois.”

But nobody here — not me or any of the commenters — glorified Bill Ayers or called him a patriot. You lied, Kaus. Don’t do it again.

You’re free, of course, to continue defending Liddy, the would-be bomber and murderer.

]]> By: Kaus http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2278 Kaus Tue, 06 May 2008 02:13:06 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/05/05/john-mccain-has-his-own-bill-ayers/#comment-2278 Pat, I think you do great commentary. I appologize for things getting too heated. I will refrain from anymore posts and let you carry on. Good luck with your blog. Just clean up the Ayers statements and what you were trying to say. Blessed are the peacemakers. Pat, I think you do great commentary. I appologize for things getting too heated. I will refrain from anymore posts and let you carry on. Good luck with your blog. Just clean up the Ayers statements and what you were trying to say. Blessed are the peacemakers.

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