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	<description>Pat Cunningham offers an unabashedly liberal perspective on national politics. A note of caution: The language gets a litttle salty on some of the sites to which this blog links. So, don't say you weren't warned. By the way, this blog's name is inspired by the Will Rogers quote, "All politics is applesauce."</description>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3373</link>
		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go, Rover. Nice work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go, Rover. Nice work.</p>
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		<title>By: redrover</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3372</link>
		<author>redrover</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your mention of Teddy Roosevelt in this discussion of racism must be a gift to me from the God you believe in, Kaus.

Please thank Him for me the next time you speak with Him.

Here's what the illustrious Rough Rider had to say about Indians:

&lt;em&gt;I suppose I should be ashamed to say that I take the Western view of the Indian. I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian. Turn three hundred low families of New York into New Jersey, support them for fifty years in vicious idleness, and you will have some idea of what the Indians are. Reckless, revengeful, fiendishly cruel, they rob and murder, not the cowboys, who can take care of themselves, but the defenseless, lone settlers on the plains. As for the soldiers, an Indian chief once asked Sheridan for a cannon. "What! Do you want to kill my soldiers with it?" asked the general. "No," replied the chief, "want to kill the cowboy; kill soldier with a club."&lt;/em&gt;

It's true, Kaus, Obama is no TR!  Thank "God" for that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your mention of Teddy Roosevelt in this discussion of racism must be a gift to me from the God you believe in, Kaus.</p>
<p>Please thank Him for me the next time you speak with Him.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what the illustrious Rough Rider had to say about Indians:</p>
<p><em>I suppose I should be ashamed to say that I take the Western view of the Indian. I don&#8217;t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn&#8217;t like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian. Turn three hundred low families of New York into New Jersey, support them for fifty years in vicious idleness, and you will have some idea of what the Indians are. Reckless, revengeful, fiendishly cruel, they rob and murder, not the cowboys, who can take care of themselves, but the defenseless, lone settlers on the plains. As for the soldiers, an Indian chief once asked Sheridan for a cannon. &#8220;What! Do you want to kill my soldiers with it?&#8221; asked the general. &#8220;No,&#8221; replied the chief, &#8220;want to kill the cowboy; kill soldier with a club.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s true, Kaus, Obama is no TR!  Thank &#8220;God&#8221; for that!</p>
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		<title>By: Kaus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3356</link>
		<author>Kaus</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3356</guid>
		<description>Red, you are totally whacked out on this topic.  I've never claimed Bush as my idol. Regardless, I don't like Obama because of his stances on:

1. Taxes - capital gains, death tax.  Disgraceful
2. He is no Teddy Roosevelt...won't carry a big stick and will walk softly
3. His alliances with far left leaning american hating whackos that have a penchant for justifying terrorism against Amercian interests. 
4. Abortion extremist.

Otherwise...great orator, hard working, dedicated.....LAWYER.   His ethnicity has NEVER been an issue with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red, you are totally whacked out on this topic.  I&#8217;ve never claimed Bush as my idol. Regardless, I don&#8217;t like Obama because of his stances on:</p>
<p>1. Taxes - capital gains, death tax.  Disgraceful<br />
2. He is no Teddy Roosevelt&#8230;won&#8217;t carry a big stick and will walk softly<br />
3. His alliances with far left leaning american hating whackos that have a penchant for justifying terrorism against Amercian interests.<br />
4. Abortion extremist.</p>
<p>Otherwise&#8230;great orator, hard working, dedicated&#8230;..LAWYER.   His ethnicity has NEVER been an issue with me.</p>
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		<title>By: redrover</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3352</link>
		<author>redrover</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3352</guid>
		<description>Of course, Kaus, you can find anything you want at Alice's Internet restaurant, or, for that matter, written on real bathroom stall walls.

But that's not the point.

The point is that, according to you and others of your persuasion, because he is an "elitist", Obama would be an unsatisfactory president.

Despite having announced that, many of those, like you, who so self-righteously denounce elitism in Obama regard the genuinely elitist Bush as your presidential hero and idol.

Why, Kaus?  
Why one standard for Obama and another for Bush?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Kaus, you can find anything you want at Alice&#8217;s Internet restaurant, or, for that matter, written on real bathroom stall walls.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not the point.</p>
<p>The point is that, according to you and others of your persuasion, because he is an &#8220;elitist&#8221;, Obama would be an unsatisfactory president.</p>
<p>Despite having announced that, many of those, like you, who so self-righteously denounce elitism in Obama regard the genuinely elitist Bush as your presidential hero and idol.</p>
<p>Why, Kaus?<br />
Why one standard for Obama and another for Bush?</p>
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		<title>By: Kaus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3351</link>
		<author>Kaus</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redrover, do you own a tv or computer at home or does the communist party in your country stop you from accessing the news when you are in the privacy of your own home? 

If you google "elitist Mccain"  or "elitist Bush" you will find plenty of examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redrover, do you own a tv or computer at home or does the communist party in your country stop you from accessing the news when you are in the privacy of your own home? </p>
<p>If you google &#8220;elitist Mccain&#8221;  or &#8220;elitist Bush&#8221; you will find plenty of examples.</p>
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		<title>By: redrover</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3342</link>
		<author>redrover</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3342</guid>
		<description>If you say, Kaus, that all these guys are "elite in the wealth and power department", then why is it only Obama who is &lt;b&gt;accused&lt;/b&gt; of being elitist, as if it were some sort of crime or personality defect, and the others not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you say, Kaus, that all these guys are &#8220;elite in the wealth and power department&#8221;, then why is it only Obama who is <b>accused</b> of being elitist, as if it were some sort of crime or personality defect, and the others not?</p>
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		<title>By: kaus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3336</link>
		<author>kaus</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red, everyone you described above (Lincoln, McCain, Bush, Obama) is elite in the wealth and power department.   However, when it comes to brains, I'm not so sure about Bush....and I do believe Bush is reminded every day in the NYT and The Daily Kos that he is indeed elite and not very bright.

Elitism is not racism...nor are attacks on his well founded church membership, nor the fact that his middle name is indeed from middle eastern origins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red, everyone you described above (Lincoln, McCain, Bush, Obama) is elite in the wealth and power department.   However, when it comes to brains, I&#8217;m not so sure about Bush&#8230;.and I do believe Bush is reminded every day in the NYT and The Daily Kos that he is indeed elite and not very bright.</p>
<p>Elitism is not racism&#8230;nor are attacks on his well founded church membership, nor the fact that his middle name is indeed from middle eastern origins.</p>
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		<title>By: redrover</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3334</link>
		<author>redrover</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaus,

Abraham Lincoln was also a wealthy lawyer who represented and hung around with railroad tycoons.

Was he an elitist too?

Before he went to law school, Obama worked for 3 years as a community organizer on Chicago's far South Side, now there’s a tony neighborhood for you.  

While he was living in that posh urban paradise, he helped to set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization.   Do you reckon that’s still more evidence of his elitism? 

At the same age, George W. Bush, wealthy and privileged from birth and with a private school and Ivy League education (Phillips Academy  &#38; Yale) behind him, legally dodged the draft and spent much of his time as a feckless and irresponsible playboy with a serious drinking problem.  

Unlike Obama, Bush has never gone out and got a real job on his own in his life.  Every job he ever had was given to him by his daddy’s buddies, and he failed at all of them.  Now there's a man who's got to be in touch with most Americans' everyday realities, right, Kaus?

If elitist properly describes Obama, then what do we call Bush?

Why is Obama, a black man, held to a different standard than Bush (and for that matter, Lincoln), a white man?  What else could it be but racism, Kaus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaus,</p>
<p>Abraham Lincoln was also a wealthy lawyer who represented and hung around with railroad tycoons.</p>
<p>Was he an elitist too?</p>
<p>Before he went to law school, Obama worked for 3 years as a community organizer on Chicago&#8217;s far South Side, now there’s a tony neighborhood for you.  </p>
<p>While he was living in that posh urban paradise, he helped to set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants&#8217; rights organization.   Do you reckon that’s still more evidence of his elitism? </p>
<p>At the same age, George W. Bush, wealthy and privileged from birth and with a private school and Ivy League education (Phillips Academy  &amp; Yale) behind him, legally dodged the draft and spent much of his time as a feckless and irresponsible playboy with a serious drinking problem.  </p>
<p>Unlike Obama, Bush has never gone out and got a real job on his own in his life.  Every job he ever had was given to him by his daddy’s buddies, and he failed at all of them.  Now there&#8217;s a man who&#8217;s got to be in touch with most Americans&#8217; everyday realities, right, Kaus?</p>
<p>If elitist properly describes Obama, then what do we call Bush?</p>
<p>Why is Obama, a black man, held to a different standard than Bush (and for that matter, Lincoln), a white man?  What else could it be but racism, Kaus?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3330</link>
		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaus: I get to decide whether Rover's comments are too long, not you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaus: I get to decide whether Rover&#8217;s comments are too long, not you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3329</link>
		<author>Kaus</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/14/more-proof-that-the-media-go-easy-on-obama/#comment-3329</guid>
		<description>Red...Red....Red as in the color red China,
1. Elitism....when Hillary decides to slam a few brewskies and shots with the boys in Pennsylvania, did that look strange to you?  Was it racist?  No, she was in a much higher social class trying to fit in with a lower class.  Obama is a very rich politician, lawyer, author who hangs with Oprah...Oprah is in the top percentile of rich women in the world and is also elite...not a race issue.. 

2. Red, you are just an appologist...an appologist for terrorists, marxists, blacks, indians, and Palestinians..... 

3. You don't need to write a book to make your point.  Make it short and brief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red&#8230;Red&#8230;.Red as in the color red China,<br />
1. Elitism&#8230;.when Hillary decides to slam a few brewskies and shots with the boys in Pennsylvania, did that look strange to you?  Was it racist?  No, she was in a much higher social class trying to fit in with a lower class.  Obama is a very rich politician, lawyer, author who hangs with Oprah&#8230;Oprah is in the top percentile of rich women in the world and is also elite&#8230;not a race issue.. </p>
<p>2. Red, you are just an appologist&#8230;an appologist for terrorists, marxists, blacks, indians, and Palestinians&#8230;.. </p>
<p>3. You don&#8217;t need to write a book to make your point.  Make it short and brief.</p>
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