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	<title>Comments on: Feds say Rockford native violated law as Justice Department official</title>
	<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/</link>
	<description>Pat Cunningham offers an unabashedly liberal perspective on national politics. A note of caution: The language gets a litttle salty on some of the sites to which this blog links. So, don't say you weren't warned. By the way, this blog's name is inspired by the Will Rogers quote, "All politics is applesauce."</description>
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		<title>By: Craig Knauss</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3614</link>
		<author>Craig Knauss</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch!  "Accept" should be "Except".  Born here and I still don't know the language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch!  &#8220;Accept&#8221; should be &#8220;Except&#8221;.  Born here and I still don&#8217;t know the language.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Knauss</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3613</link>
		<author>Craig Knauss</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was with the government, we had something called the Hatch Act.  Accept for outright patronage employees, any work-related politcal activities were expressly prohibited.  And there were no check boxes for political affiliation.  That's why it wasn't any easier to determine one's political orientation than it was to determine one's religion.  And that's the way it should be.  I suspect the "data" was speculative, at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was with the government, we had something called the Hatch Act.  Accept for outright patronage employees, any work-related politcal activities were expressly prohibited.  And there were no check boxes for political affiliation.  That&#8217;s why it wasn&#8217;t any easier to determine one&#8217;s political orientation than it was to determine one&#8217;s religion.  And that&#8217;s the way it should be.  I suspect the &#8220;data&#8221; was speculative, at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3594</link>
		<author>Henry</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm many things, but lazy is not one of them.  I checked out your link and the application is not available right now (applications will be accepted starting July 25th).  I agree with Craig's post, and I would like to see the application.  Are there 'liberal' and 'conservative' check boxes?  My guess would be no.  What if a candidate does not list any political activity, or service to an obviously right or left wing organization?  Then what?  Is the applicant then liberal or conservative?  This whole thing doesn't add up.  Finally, if this is such a liberal biased process, why did the Republican administration adopt it, and why haven't they corrected the 'problem'?  

You really should read the links before you post it.  The DOJ site wasn't any more help to your argument than was the one about polar bears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m many things, but lazy is not one of them.  I checked out your link and the application is not available right now (applications will be accepted starting July 25th).  I agree with Craig&#8217;s post, and I would like to see the application.  Are there &#8216;liberal&#8217; and &#8216;conservative&#8217; check boxes?  My guess would be no.  What if a candidate does not list any political activity, or service to an obviously right or left wing organization?  Then what?  Is the applicant then liberal or conservative?  This whole thing doesn&#8217;t add up.  Finally, if this is such a liberal biased process, why did the Republican administration adopt it, and why haven&#8217;t they corrected the &#8216;problem&#8217;?  </p>
<p>You really should read the links before you post it.  The DOJ site wasn&#8217;t any more help to your argument than was the one about polar bears.</p>
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		<title>By: Menlo Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3586</link>
		<author>Menlo Bob</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry--Have you considered a career in journalism.  They too have difficulty with anything other that what someone points them to.  &lt;a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/oarm/arm/hp/hp.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Go here&lt;/a&gt;--lazy boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry&#8211;Have you considered a career in journalism.  They too have difficulty with anything other that what someone points them to.  <a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/oarm/arm/hp/hp.htm" rel="nofollow">Go here</a>&#8211;lazy boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3559</link>
		<author>Henry</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any idea where one could take a look at the application?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any idea where one could take a look at the application?</p>
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		<title>By: Menlo Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3550</link>
		<author>Menlo Bob</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3550</guid>
		<description>Craig--are you now saying you don't trust the report, or are you saying that no one can read an application and draw inferences from statements and affiliations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig&#8211;are you now saying you don&#8217;t trust the report, or are you saying that no one can read an application and draw inferences from statements and affiliations?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Knauss</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3547</link>
		<author>Craig Knauss</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3547</guid>
		<description>"On pp. 20-21, we find the numbers that establish that the DoJ career staff in 2002 nominated twice as many identifiable liberals as identifiable conservatives for the Honors track program: 100 vs. 46.

And on page 27, we read that the DoJ bureaucracy advanced nearly three times as many identifiable liberals as conservatives for summer internships that year, 81 vs. 29."  

Really?  Does it say that on their name tags?  Were they forced to wear big red letter "Ls" and "Cs"?  Some people think anyone to the left of Heinrich Himmler was liberal, while others think anyone to the right of Mao Tsi Tung was conservative.  I worked for the DoD from 1975 to 1986 and don't remember any labeling like that back then.  Times must have really changed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On pp. 20-21, we find the numbers that establish that the DoJ career staff in 2002 nominated twice as many identifiable liberals as identifiable conservatives for the Honors track program: 100 vs. 46.</p>
<p>And on page 27, we read that the DoJ bureaucracy advanced nearly three times as many identifiable liberals as conservatives for summer internships that year, 81 vs. 29.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Really?  Does it say that on their name tags?  Were they forced to wear big red letter &#8220;Ls&#8221; and &#8220;Cs&#8221;?  Some people think anyone to the left of Heinrich Himmler was liberal, while others think anyone to the right of Mao Tsi Tung was conservative.  I worked for the DoD from 1975 to 1986 and don&#8217;t remember any labeling like that back then.  Times must have really changed!</p>
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		<title>By: redrover</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3540</link>
		<author>redrover</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's the important part of this story, in my opinion:

"Prior to 2002, career employees within each Department component decided which applicants to interview and select for both the Honors Program and SLIP. However, under a new system implemented by the Attorney General in 2002, a Screening Committee, generally comprised of politically appointed employees from the Department's leadership offices, had to approve all Honors Program and SLIP candidates for interviews by the components. In addition, the political appointees in each Department component were encouraged to become move involved in the hiring process to select these candidates."
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/06/watchdogs_whack_doj_for_cronyi.html

This kind of system, where DOJ staff attorneys and/or DOJ political appointees can select or deselect candidates at will and for whatever reasons they wish, is just simply unavoidably corruptible no matter who, "conservative" or "liberal", does the selecting / screening.

These positions ought to be filled based on some sort civil service like exam and/or evaluation of the candidate’s legal qualifications that is blinded to his/her political affiliations. Period.

I hope that will be what the good that comes out of this dishonorable mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the important part of this story, in my opinion:</p>
<p>&#8220;Prior to 2002, career employees within each Department component decided which applicants to interview and select for both the Honors Program and SLIP. However, under a new system implemented by the Attorney General in 2002, a Screening Committee, generally comprised of politically appointed employees from the Department&#8217;s leadership offices, had to approve all Honors Program and SLIP candidates for interviews by the components. In addition, the political appointees in each Department component were encouraged to become move involved in the hiring process to select these candidates.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/06/watchdogs_whack_doj_for_cronyi.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/06/watchdogs_whack_doj_for_cronyi.html</a></p>
<p>This kind of system, where DOJ staff attorneys and/or DOJ political appointees can select or deselect candidates at will and for whatever reasons they wish, is just simply unavoidably corruptible no matter who, &#8220;conservative&#8221; or &#8220;liberal&#8221;, does the selecting / screening.</p>
<p>These positions ought to be filled based on some sort civil service like exam and/or evaluation of the candidate’s legal qualifications that is blinded to his/her political affiliations. Period.</p>
<p>I hope that will be what the good that comes out of this dishonorable mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Menlo Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3536</link>
		<author>Menlo Bob</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3536</guid>
		<description>The DOJ report &lt;a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/special/s0806/final.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DOJ report <a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/special/s0806/final.pdf" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/06/26/feds-say-rockford-native-violated-law-as-justice-department-official/#comment-3532</link>
		<author>Henry</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a link to the report, I'd like to see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a link to the report, I&#8217;d like to see that.</p>
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