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• 1. Menlo Bob  |  June 30th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

  My guess is that throughout the ’90s you weren’t much concerned about OBL and the history of fecklessness practiced by Monica Lewinsky’s specimen donor.

• 2. Pat Cunningham  |  June 30th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

  Whatever that means.

• 3. Menlo Bob  |  July 1st, 2008 at 11:43 am

  I’ll slow it down for you Mr. Hussein Cunningham.
  ————————————————————————–
  Feckless=incompetent
  OBL=Osama bin Laden
  Monica Lewinsky’s specimen donor=Bill Clinton.

  Bill Clinton didn’t kill Osama bin Laden leaving him to hatch a plan to kill 3000 Americans.

• 4. Pat Cunningham  |  July 1st, 2008 at 11:53 am

  Oh, yeah. I forgot. Every failure by the Bush administration is Bill Clinton’s fault. Accountability is not the long suit of conservative Republicans.

• 5. Menlo Bob  |  July 1st, 2008 at 12:01 pm

  Oh, yeah. I forgot. Every failure by the Clinton administration is George Bush’s fault. Accountability is not the long suit of left-wing Democrats.

• 6. Pat Cunningham  |  July 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pm

  Bill Clinton’s administration was the most popular of the post-World War II period. That’s some kind of failure, that’s for sure. On the very day Clinton was impeached, his approval rating in the Gallup Poll reached 73 percent, a higher mark than Ronald Reagan ever achieved. George W. Bush is such a failure that three out of four Americans disapprove of his administration. Blame that on Clinton, chump.

• 7. equalityrkfd=  |  July 1st, 2008 at 1:08 pm

  Bill Clinton’s actions or inactions have nothing to do with Laura Bush specimen donor’s incompetence. of course that is asuming W is donating specimens.

• 8. Mike Carroll  |  July 1st, 2008 at 1:37 pm

  Once again Pat you are equating popularity with success. I trust you had a continual hangover in your collegiate logic class.

• 9. Pat Cunningham  |  July 1st, 2008 at 1:53 pm

  Mike: Since success is a subjective concept, I think popularity usually is as reliable a measure as most. Hardly anybody thinks of the current administration as successful, especially in comparison with the Clinton administration. You, I’m sure, are an exception in that regard. Most historians, economists and ordinary Americans disagree with you, but, hey, what do they know? At least you probably have Kaus, Menlo Bob and the usual gang of Applesauce suspects on your side. (Yeah, I know. To lump you with them is to insult you in the most unkind way. Perhaps some day you’ll forgive and forget.)

• 10. Saddam Hussein Olbermann  |  July 1st, 2008 at 3:19 pm

  No sooner did you announce that you’d be using Hussein as your middle name and then you stopped. But it did outlast the shelf life of one of your posts.

• 11. Mike Carroll  |  July 1st, 2008 at 6:18 pm

  “Since success is a subjective concept,” I don’t think so. Success is objective and measurable. FDR was a successful President not because he was popular. He was popular because he was successful, or at least perceived as successful.
  Billy Bob left office popular because..well, I don’t have a clue. Historians rate him a failure.

• 12. Pat Cunningham  |  July 1st, 2008 at 8:24 pm

  You say historians rate Clinton’s presidency a failure. From what I have been able to gather, they rank him somewhere in the middle of the pack of 43. But let’s both be fair. It takes decades before historians can assess an administration’s successes and failures with any sense of objectivity. For example, Truman has steadily moved up the charts with the passage of time. There even are scholars who now say Grant wasn’t really as bad as previously thought. Kennedy will never be given objective assessment until after the deaths of everybody who was alive when he was assassinated. He still has that martyr thing going for him, and the Camelot thing.

• 13. Saddam Hussein Olbermann  |  July 1st, 2008 at 8:55 pm

  Kennedy served for 3 undistinguished years during which he was popular for being popular. His record includes installing his brother as attorney general, being snookered by the Soviets, the Bay of Pigs debacle, sleeping with thehead of the mafia’s girl friend and wiretapping Martin Luther King. Waiting for the verdict is hoping for a miracle.

• 14. Mike Carroll  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 7:05 am

  Well Patrick, we do agree. It does take decades for historians to fully assess an administration and the growing (deservedly so in my opinion) admiration of Truman and shrinking reputation of Kennedy are the prime recent examples.
  BTW, if your Mother raised 4 siblings like you, sainthood should be in the works.

• 15. Pat Cunningham  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 7:41 am

  Indeed. Even this old agnostic can agree with that.

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