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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m betting that some people, for some reason, will get upset at this folio of cool photos</title>
	<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/</link>
	<description>Pat Cunningham offers an unabashedly liberal perspective on national politics. A note of caution: The language gets a litttle salty on some of the sites to which this blog links. So, don't say you weren't warned. By the way, this blog's name is inspired by the Will Rogers quote, "All politics is applesauce."</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Carroll</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4389</link>
		<author>Mike Carroll</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've noticed the absence of Kaus as well. Hope your assumption is correct.
I think you are aiming too low. I see an ambassador position in your future. Some visitors to this site are backing Mars as a destination for you but not me of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed the absence of Kaus as well. Hope your assumption is correct.<br />
I think you are aiming too low. I see an ambassador position in your future. Some visitors to this site are backing Mars as a destination for you but not me of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4387</link>
		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Mike, what do you think has happened to our old friend Kaus? He hasn't been here in two weeks.  I hope it's just a vacation. If I lose Kaus and Charlie in the same month, I might as well pack it in myself. After all, the lost income will be more than covered by the bets I'm making on the November elections. Besides, I'll probably get a nice gig in the Obama administration -- minister of culture or something like that. Maybe I can entice Kaus and Charlie to return by promising them deputy ministerships -- but just for menial tasks, mind you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Mike, what do you think has happened to our old friend Kaus? He hasn&#8217;t been here in two weeks.  I hope it&#8217;s just a vacation. If I lose Kaus and Charlie in the same month, I might as well pack it in myself. After all, the lost income will be more than covered by the bets I&#8217;m making on the November elections. Besides, I&#8217;ll probably get a nice gig in the Obama administration &#8212; minister of culture or something like that. Maybe I can entice Kaus and Charlie to return by promising them deputy ministerships &#8212; but just for menial tasks, mind you.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4386</link>
		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike's right, Charlie. Don't go away. You faced tougher adversaries than me during your stint in the military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike&#8217;s right, Charlie. Don&#8217;t go away. You faced tougher adversaries than me during your stint in the military.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Carroll</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4384</link>
		<author>Mike Carroll</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stay around EchoCharlie. Your presence adds to this blog.
And don't take Patrick too seriously. I have traded barbs with him for 10+ years now with no ill effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay around EchoCharlie. Your presence adds to this blog.<br />
And don&#8217;t take Patrick too seriously. I have traded barbs with him for 10+ years now with no ill effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Echo4Charlie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4383</link>
		<author>Echo4Charlie</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4383</guid>
		<description>I actually answered it it my last comment.  I won't even start on his "rollover" stance on Israel, and dividing Jerusalem.  He's even floored his own media supporters with that one.

I'll just make my point, and then vanish......(taaa daaa)...from the blog.

The pictures of the excited screaming Europeans is nothing but propmotional photography.  They're showing pictures of a hughe "youth swoon" over this guy.  But the fact is, these weren't even US citizens, and, although all humans and quality of life for all is important, their opinion of our Junior Senator has no bearing on US elections.  And, some of the comments that he made about our country, over there, don't sit too well with guys like me, but, that's the freedom (and in his case, the price) that I worked hard to make sure that he had come this day.

The bottom line is, they (European citizens) aren't registered to vote here.  Us citizens are.  So, these shots are just mugging for facetime and marketing. Period.

This doen't represent America's embrace of this guy.

You're wrong about this guy, and the election will prove that in November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually answered it it my last comment.  I won&#8217;t even start on his &#8220;rollover&#8221; stance on Israel, and dividing Jerusalem.  He&#8217;s even floored his own media supporters with that one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just make my point, and then vanish&#8230;&#8230;(taaa daaa)&#8230;from the blog.</p>
<p>The pictures of the excited screaming Europeans is nothing but propmotional photography.  They&#8217;re showing pictures of a hughe &#8220;youth swoon&#8221; over this guy.  But the fact is, these weren&#8217;t even US citizens, and, although all humans and quality of life for all is important, their opinion of our Junior Senator has no bearing on US elections.  And, some of the comments that he made about our country, over there, don&#8217;t sit too well with guys like me, but, that&#8217;s the freedom (and in his case, the price) that I worked hard to make sure that he had come this day.</p>
<p>The bottom line is, they (European citizens) aren&#8217;t registered to vote here.  Us citizens are.  So, these shots are just mugging for facetime and marketing. Period.</p>
<p>This doen&#8217;t represent America&#8217;s embrace of this guy.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong about this guy, and the election will prove that in November.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4382</link>
		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4382</guid>
		<description>Charlie: Your military service is laudable, but it doesn't give you the right to impugn the patriotism of others without being challenged. It doesn't give you the right to misrepresent what Obama said regarding Iran without being challenged. It doesn't give you the right to imply that I spit on any soldiers, which isn't true. Now, what question was it that you wanted me to answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie: Your military service is laudable, but it doesn&#8217;t give you the right to impugn the patriotism of others without being challenged. It doesn&#8217;t give you the right to misrepresent what Obama said regarding Iran without being challenged. It doesn&#8217;t give you the right to imply that I spit on any soldiers, which isn&#8217;t true. Now, what question was it that you wanted me to answer?</p>
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		<title>By: Echo4Charlie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4380</link>
		<author>Echo4Charlie</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4380</guid>
		<description>Pseudo-Patriotic couldn't be more correct.  That's why, as a Pseudo-Patriot, I served, in combat, in Iraq and Somalia.  Then, I woent to Bosnia.  I had too short a term left in service to deploy to Bosnia, and new it, but, I kept it to myself, and went, to be with my fellow Marines.  2 out of three times, I went into combat with less functional equipment than we should have had, thanks to Clintons budget cuts (he spent more on his mistresses' dry cleaning than the military, in 8 years).

I carried a wounded fellow jarhead over 1/2 a mile on my shoulders, and could taste his blood in my mouth, as it got all over me.

That's the level of my Pseudo-Patriotism.

How about you?  What did you do in your youth?  Spit on soldies, and hang out with your hippie movement buddies?

You never did answer my question.  Hasn't your partisan info source answered my question for you, yet?  You've slung insults, like a unstable child, but, never answered my question.

Because, you know they have no relevance to how we vote here, so it doesn't matter.  They are just good photo ops in front of large crowds.  That's all.  Just face service, and photo ops, for cool "rock-star-like" photos.  

But, the largest portion of those crowds won't be voting in November.  They aren't US citizens.  The seior citizens in the supermarket cheese aisles, that McCain was visiting, will.

And, Pat, those were Obama’s words. You won’t find that on the websites you surf……..

But, that was from a non-partisan source.  Prove to me they weren't.  Your just regurgitating crap that your partisan web sites dribble.  But you just don't seem to answer the questions.

Keep looking, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pseudo-Patriotic couldn&#8217;t be more correct.  That&#8217;s why, as a Pseudo-Patriot, I served, in combat, in Iraq and Somalia.  Then, I woent to Bosnia.  I had too short a term left in service to deploy to Bosnia, and new it, but, I kept it to myself, and went, to be with my fellow Marines.  2 out of three times, I went into combat with less functional equipment than we should have had, thanks to Clintons budget cuts (he spent more on his mistresses&#8217; dry cleaning than the military, in 8 years).</p>
<p>I carried a wounded fellow jarhead over 1/2 a mile on my shoulders, and could taste his blood in my mouth, as it got all over me.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the level of my Pseudo-Patriotism.</p>
<p>How about you?  What did you do in your youth?  Spit on soldies, and hang out with your hippie movement buddies?</p>
<p>You never did answer my question.  Hasn&#8217;t your partisan info source answered my question for you, yet?  You&#8217;ve slung insults, like a unstable child, but, never answered my question.</p>
<p>Because, you know they have no relevance to how we vote here, so it doesn&#8217;t matter.  They are just good photo ops in front of large crowds.  That&#8217;s all.  Just face service, and photo ops, for cool &#8220;rock-star-like&#8221; photos.  </p>
<p>But, the largest portion of those crowds won&#8217;t be voting in November.  They aren&#8217;t US citizens.  The seior citizens in the supermarket cheese aisles, that McCain was visiting, will.</p>
<p>And, Pat, those were Obama’s words. You won’t find that on the websites you surf……..</p>
<p>But, that was from a non-partisan source.  Prove to me they weren&#8217;t.  Your just regurgitating crap that your partisan web sites dribble.  But you just don&#8217;t seem to answer the questions.</p>
<p>Keep looking, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4373</link>
		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4373</guid>
		<description>Charlie: Two things: 
1) You obviously know very little about how that wounded-troops episode came down. You also obviously lack the brainpower to recognize that a presidential candidate would not deliberately schedule a visit to a military hospital and then cancel it without good reason, knowing that pseudo-patriotic nitwits like you would make a big fuss over it. Why would any candidate in his right mind do something like that? Haven't you read or heard that the Pentagon discouraged the visit at the last moment? Have you no grasp at all of politics?

And, 2) What is this completely irrelevant thing you keep raising about the people in the crowd at Obama's speech not having registered with the U.S. Selective Service? What the hell does that have to do with anything? You're like a child. How old are you really, Charlie? In your teens? Or perhaps your 90s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie: Two things:<br />
1) You obviously know very little about how that wounded-troops episode came down. You also obviously lack the brainpower to recognize that a presidential candidate would not deliberately schedule a visit to a military hospital and then cancel it without good reason, knowing that pseudo-patriotic nitwits like you would make a big fuss over it. Why would any candidate in his right mind do something like that? Haven&#8217;t you read or heard that the Pentagon discouraged the visit at the last moment? Have you no grasp at all of politics?</p>
<p>And, 2) What is this completely irrelevant thing you keep raising about the people in the crowd at Obama&#8217;s speech not having registered with the U.S. Selective Service? What the hell does that have to do with anything? You&#8217;re like a child. How old are you really, Charlie? In your teens? Or perhaps your 90s?</p>
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		<title>By: Echo4Charlie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4369</link>
		<author>Echo4Charlie</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, what's the importance of the European tour in relation to how we vote in November?  As far as I know, the European people, who are not registered with the US selective service, are not voting.  We are.

He's over his head, mugging for camera time.  Even tonight, as he chose to play basketball, instead of visit our wounded troops (where the media camera isn't permitted).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, what&#8217;s the importance of the European tour in relation to how we vote in November?  As far as I know, the European people, who are not registered with the US selective service, are not voting.  We are.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s over his head, mugging for camera time.  Even tonight, as he chose to play basketball, instead of visit our wounded troops (where the media camera isn&#8217;t permitted).</p>
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		<title>By: Echo4Charlie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/25/im-betting-that-some-people-for-some-reason-will-get-upset-at-this-folio-of-cool-photos/#comment-4368</link>
		<author>Echo4Charlie</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where was Obama tonight?  Not in Germany visiting wounded veterans.  Instead he cancelled, and played basketball!

And, Pat, those were Obama's words.  You won't find that on the websites you surf........

But, that was from a non-partisan source.

Keep looking, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where was Obama tonight?  Not in Germany visiting wounded veterans.  Instead he cancelled, and played basketball!</p>
<p>And, Pat, those were Obama&#8217;s words.  You won&#8217;t find that on the websites you surf&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>But, that was from a non-partisan source.</p>
<p>Keep looking, sir.</p>
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