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	<title>Comments on: A day of dishonesty</title>
	<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/30/a-day-of-dishonesty/</link>
	<description>Pat Cunningham offers an unabashedly liberal perspective on national politics. A note of caution: The language gets a litttle salty on some of the sites to which this blog links. So, don't say you weren't warned. By the way, this blog's name is inspired by the Will Rogers quote, "All politics is applesauce."</description>
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		<title>By: Menlo Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/30/a-day-of-dishonesty/#comment-4559</link>
		<author>Menlo Bob</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome aboard the USS Drill Here Drill Now.  It's time haul the obstructionist anchor--full speed ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome aboard the USS Drill Here Drill Now.  It&#8217;s time haul the obstructionist anchor&#8211;full speed ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/30/a-day-of-dishonesty/#comment-4542</link>
		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaus: Let's also give Bob credit for plowing through scores of pages of dry scientific stuff to disprove the premise advanced by my source. That's the kind of intellectual diligence you could never muster. Also, note that I've amended the original post to show that the oil-spill item is in error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaus: Let&#8217;s also give Bob credit for plowing through scores of pages of dry scientific stuff to disprove the premise advanced by my source. That&#8217;s the kind of intellectual diligence you could never muster. Also, note that I&#8217;ve amended the original post to show that the oil-spill item is in error.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/30/a-day-of-dishonesty/#comment-4539</link>
		<author>Kaus</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Menlo Bob hits it out of the park.   Time for Pat to send you more free tickets to non-existant movie houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Menlo Bob hits it out of the park.   Time for Pat to send you more free tickets to non-existant movie houses.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/30/a-day-of-dishonesty/#comment-4537</link>
		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/30/a-day-of-dishonesty/#comment-4537</guid>
		<description>You're right, Bob. I stand corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Bob. I stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Menlo Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/30/a-day-of-dishonesty/#comment-4534</link>
		<author>Menlo Bob</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/30/a-day-of-dishonesty/#comment-4534</guid>
		<description>Let's talk about dishonesty.  Your #1 item deals with statements made about oil spills from oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico after hurricane Katrina.  The &lt;a href="http://www.mms.gov/tarprojects/581/44814183_MMS_Katrina_Rita_PL_Final%20Report%20Rev1.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; provided by Think Progress as the definative voice for the assessment of damage says this on page 65:

"Hurricanes Katrina and Rita confirmed that our offshore oil and gas industry produces  environmentally safe energy for America.  Even in the face of two back-to-back major hurricanes, all subsurface safety valves held on the OCS and there was no significant spill from production.  The small amounts of oil observed in the water surrounding platforms may have come from damaged pipelines or petroleum supplies for running platform 
machinery, but, as stated, it did not come from OCS production wells."

Again you've accepted at face value the dubious reporting of a left-wing site without checking it out.  They lied, your credibility died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s talk about dishonesty.  Your #1 item deals with statements made about oil spills from oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico after hurricane Katrina.  The <a href="http://www.mms.gov/tarprojects/581/44814183_MMS_Katrina_Rita_PL_Final%20Report%20Rev1.pdf" rel="nofollow">link</a> provided by Think Progress as the definative voice for the assessment of damage says this on page 65:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hurricanes Katrina and Rita confirmed that our offshore oil and gas industry produces  environmentally safe energy for America.  Even in the face of two back-to-back major hurricanes, all subsurface safety valves held on the OCS and there was no significant spill from production.  The small amounts of oil observed in the water surrounding platforms may have come from damaged pipelines or petroleum supplies for running platform<br />
machinery, but, as stated, it did not come from OCS production wells.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again you&#8217;ve accepted at face value the dubious reporting of a left-wing site without checking it out.  They lied, your credibility died.</p>
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		<title>By: redrover</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/30/a-day-of-dishonesty/#comment-4525</link>
		<author>redrover</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/07/30/a-day-of-dishonesty/#comment-4525</guid>
		<description>It must be "Obama = Arrogance" week down at the corporate media corral.

Here's another piece on that hot topic similar to those you've posted.  Dig the intro.

&lt;B&gt;President Obama Continues Hectic Victory Tour&lt;/B&gt;
By Dana Milbank
The Washington Post, Wednesday, July 30, 2008; A03

Barack Obama has long been his party's presumptive nominee. Now he's becoming its presumptuous nominee.

FULL TEXT AT:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/29/AR2008072902068_pf.html

What bugs me about these sorts of critiques is that they waste a reader's time and attention on issues of no substance while real issues are carefully left unaddressed.

What results is a sort of cultivated selective ignorance which makes it difficult for readers who want to make an informed, and not a disinformed, decision at the polling place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be &#8220;Obama = Arrogance&#8221; week down at the corporate media corral.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another piece on that hot topic similar to those you&#8217;ve posted.  Dig the intro.</p>
<p><b>President Obama Continues Hectic Victory Tour</b><br />
By Dana Milbank<br />
The Washington Post, Wednesday, July 30, 2008; A03</p>
<p>Barack Obama has long been his party&#8217;s presumptive nominee. Now he&#8217;s becoming its presumptuous nominee.</p>
<p>FULL TEXT AT:<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/29/AR2008072902068_pf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/29/AR2008072902068_pf.html</a></p>
<p>What bugs me about these sorts of critiques is that they waste a reader&#8217;s time and attention on issues of no substance while real issues are carefully left unaddressed.</p>
<p>What results is a sort of cultivated selective ignorance which makes it difficult for readers who want to make an informed, and not a disinformed, decision at the polling place.</p>
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