Comments on: The story of the presidential candidate and the 1970s political radical, a convicted felon http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/ Pat Cunningham offers an unabashedly liberal perspective on national politics. A note of caution: The language gets a litttle salty on some of the sites to which this blog links. So, don't say you weren't warned. By the way, this blog's name is inspired by the Will Rogers quote, "All politics is applesauce." Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:54:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.4 By: DingDong http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-7012 DingDong Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:06:21 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-7012 Pat: I checked your references and as a typical lazy reporter, you left out certain keys facts. The first article is about what donation Obama got from Ayers, that is not the point, it is well known that Obama spent a lot of time with Ayers. Secondly, you use Wikipedia as a source, my god, anybody can write that stuff. But I know for a fact that the like about Liddy was taken out context, I happened to be listening to him the day he said it. Surprisingly Wikipedia put it in their post: "I was talking about a situation in which law enforced agents comes smashing into a house, doesn't say who they are, and their guns are out, they're shooting, and they're in the wrong place. This has happened time and time again. The ATF has gone in and gotten the wrong guy in the wrong place. The law is that if somebody is shooting at you, using deadly force, the mere fact that they are a law enforcement officer, if they are in the wrong, does not mean you are obliged to allow yourself to be killed so your kinfolk can have a wrongful death action. You are legally entitled to defend yourself and I was speaking of exactly those kind of situations. If you're going to do that, you should know that they're wearing body armor so you should use a head shot. Now all I'm doing is stating the law, but all the nuances in there got left out when the story got repeated. " Also Pat, he actually served time unlike Ayers. I don't really care about Ayers that much but it does go to a pattern of embracing left wing radicals. It is funny you never have mentioned Obama's mentor Frank Marshall Davis. Look him and tell everyone how he is connected to Obama Pat: I checked your references and as a typical lazy reporter, you left out certain keys facts. The first article is about what donation Obama got from Ayers, that is not the point, it is well known that Obama spent a lot of time with Ayers. Secondly, you use Wikipedia as a source, my god, anybody can write that stuff. But I know for a fact that the like about Liddy was taken out context, I happened to be listening to him the day he said it. Surprisingly Wikipedia put it in their post:

“I was talking about a situation in which law enforced agents comes smashing into a house, doesn’t say who they are, and their guns are out, they’re shooting, and they’re in the wrong place. This has happened time and time again. The ATF has gone in and gotten the wrong guy in the wrong place. The law is that if somebody is shooting at you, using deadly force, the mere fact that they are a law enforcement officer, if they are in the wrong, does not mean you are obliged to allow yourself to be killed so your kinfolk can have a wrongful death action. You are legally entitled to defend yourself and I was speaking of exactly those kind of situations. If you’re going to do that, you should know that they’re wearing body armor so you should use a head shot. Now all I’m doing is stating the law, but all the nuances in there got left out when the story got repeated. ”

Also Pat, he actually served time unlike Ayers. I don’t really care about Ayers that much but it does go to a pattern of embracing left wing radicals. It is funny you never have mentioned Obama’s mentor Frank Marshall Davis. Look him and tell everyone how he is connected to Obama

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6652 Pat Cunningham Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:12:46 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6652 Jacqueline: Thanks much. I'll do my best. Jacqueline: Thanks much. I’ll do my best.

]]> By: Jacqueline http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6646 Jacqueline Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:37:59 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6646 Thanks, Pat. Keep up the good work...spread truth AND dissent! Thanks, Pat. Keep up the good work…spread truth AND dissent!

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6645 Pat Cunningham Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:35:52 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6645 Jacqueline: I can find no connection between the two Liddys other than that both of them were born in New Jersey and both were raised Catholics. G. Gordon is 15 years older than Edward. I'll keep working on it, but it seems to me that we would have heard about it already if they were brothers. Jacqueline: I can find no connection between the two Liddys other than that both of them were born in New Jersey and both were raised Catholics. G. Gordon is 15 years older than Edward. I’ll keep working on it, but it seems to me that we would have heard about it already if they were brothers.

]]> By: Jacqueline http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6644 Jacqueline Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:12:30 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6644 Great blog, Pat. Question: Is Edward Liddy (set to be CEO of AIG after the scary government takeover) any relation to G. Gordon Liddy? I'e searched and can't seem to find much about him. Thanks! Great blog, Pat. Question: Is Edward Liddy (set to be CEO of AIG after the scary government takeover) any relation to G. Gordon Liddy? I’e searched and can’t seem to find much about him. Thanks!

]]> By: Peter Gunn http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6116 Peter Gunn Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:39:18 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6116 Captain Swift Boat Don't answer Questions He Poses Questions, Among other things Captain Swift Boat Don’t answer Questions
He Poses Questions, Among other things

]]> By: Craig Knauss http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6113 Craig Knauss Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:30:21 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6113 Didn't answer Pat's questions, did you snuss? Didn’t answer Pat’s questions, did you snuss?

]]> By: SNuss http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6107 SNuss Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:03:22 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6107 Liddy served time for his crimes-Ayres didn't. Since he paid for his crimes, that gives him a better right to participate in the political process, than the "former" terrorist, IMHO. As to his friendship with McCain, you will have to ask him. Liddy served time for his crimes-Ayres didn’t. Since he paid for his crimes, that gives him a better right to participate in the political process, than the “former” terrorist, IMHO. As to his friendship with McCain, you will have to ask him.

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6078 Pat Cunningham Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:13:56 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6078 snuss: Where's your proof that Ayers blew up buildings, as Kaus claims? Where's your defense of McCain's chumminess with a convicted felon? Why hasn't McCain denounced Liddy's nefarious activites as Obama has denounced Ayers' activities? Why do you hold Obama to a different standard, especially when he was never as friendly with Ayers as McCain has been, and presumably still is, with Liddy? Why are you and Kaus such hypocrites? Answer, snuss, answers. No more, B.S. Give me a reasonable defense of McCain in this matter. You can't, right? I've never defended Ayers or the Weather Underground. I abhor their activities. But you seem not to abhor Liddy's actions or McCain's friendship with Liddy and his acceptance of $5,000 from a criminal. Answers, snuss, answers. snuss: Where’s your proof that Ayers blew up buildings, as Kaus claims? Where’s your defense of McCain’s chumminess with a convicted felon? Why hasn’t McCain denounced Liddy’s nefarious activites as Obama has denounced Ayers’ activities? Why do you hold Obama to a different standard, especially when he was never as friendly with Ayers as McCain has been, and presumably still is, with Liddy? Why are you and Kaus such hypocrites? Answer, snuss, answers. No more, B.S. Give me a reasonable defense of McCain in this matter. You can’t, right? I’ve never defended Ayers or the Weather Underground. I abhor their activities. But you seem not to abhor Liddy’s actions or McCain’s friendship with Liddy and his acceptance of $5,000 from a criminal. Answers, snuss, answers.

]]> By: Craig Knauss http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6075 Craig Knauss Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:39:30 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/08/the-story-of-the-presidential-candidate-and-the-1970s-political-radical-a-convicted-felon/#comment-6075 "Ayers and Dohrn were credibly accused, in classified testimony before a Senate subcommittee in 1974...." If it was "classified" how did the right-wing National Review get the information? Sounds like a crock to me. “Ayers and Dohrn were credibly accused, in classified testimony before a Senate subcommittee in 1974….”

If it was “classified” how did the right-wing National Review get the information? Sounds like a crock to me.

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