CBS/NYT poll has Obama up by 5 points; most voters think Palin is unqualified for presidency
September 17th, 2008 at 08:39pm Pat Cunningham
THIS POLL is chock full of bad news for John McCain, including the fact that most voters see him as “a typical Republican” who likely will follow the policies of George W. Bush and is far less likely than Barack Obama to bring change to Washington.
Consider, too, that most of the poll was conducted before the recent tumultuous events on Wall Street, which likely will have negative effects on the U.S. economy, at least in the short term.
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1. Mark | September 17th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
People … we need objectivity. A New York Times poll predicting Obama is leading … shocking. You simply cannot take the results of one poll and believe anything. Use Real Clear Politics - at least they use many individual polls to draw their conclusions. We also still have 4 debates and 49 days to go. This data means nothing right now.
2. Menlo Bob | September 18th, 2008 at 2:03 am
You do realize that Palin isn\’t running for the presidency, whereas Tony Rezko\’s sock puppet is attempting to do just that.
3. LD | September 18th, 2008 at 8:01 am
Not a good week for McCain, either he doesn’t know who the President of Spain is, or he thinks Spain is located somewhere south of Mexico and run by a dictator.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/217710.php
4. Milton Waddams | September 18th, 2008 at 8:32 am
Sarah Palin is running to be the replacement president. She is on the ticket with a 72 year old who’s had cancer 4 times and isn’t exactly as healthy as he once was.
5. Craig Knauss | September 18th, 2008 at 8:58 am
Someone sent this to me yesterday. It’s no more irrelevant than anything Menlo Bob posts. It makes some good points without resorting to lies.
Subject: I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight….
> * If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re
> “exotic, different.”
>
> * Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American story.
>
> * If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
>
> * Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.
>
> * Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
>
> * Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well
> grounded.
>
> * If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter
> registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years
> as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.
>
> * If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city
> council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000
> people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.
>
> * If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while
> raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re
> not a real Christian.
>
> * If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your
> disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a
> Christian.
>
> If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
>
> * If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you’re very responsible.
>
> * If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
> community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America’s.
>
> * If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
>
> OK, much clearer now.
6. Jon | September 18th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Craig…
Cool…nice way of putting together all the thoughts I’ve had on those folks.
7. LD | September 18th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Craig, we must be on the same mailing list. I got it as well.
8. Orlando Clay | September 18th, 2008 at 10:00 am
“Mark” wrote: “People … we need objectivity. A New York Times poll predicting Obama is leading … shocking.”
Hey, Sparky, the same NYT/CBS poll had McCain up by 2% last week. Was that equally shocking to you?
“Mark” also wrote: “We also still have 4 debates and 49 days to go. This data means nothing right now.”
You Cons really crack me up!! When the results of last week’s poll were released, one of our Applesauce friends on the right (Kaus, I believe) was overtly bragging about the “crumbling Obama campaign” and how “Florida has fallen” into the McCain column (Obama has since pulled into a dead heat with McCain here in Florida). When your candidate is on top, “it’s all over” and “the fat lady has sung”; but when your guy is trailing, you right-wingers wheel out the “polls mean nothing until November 4″ tag line.
I can’t wait to hear how Rush Limbaugh spins the results of this poll on his daily propaganda festival this afternoon. On Monday’s show, he declared the Obama campaign to be in a state of panic. Should be quite an entertaining show.
9. Pat Cunningham | September 18th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Orlando: You shouldn’t be listening to Limbaugh. It can cause brain damage (or dain bramage, as it were).
10. Pat Cunningham | September 18th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Craig and LD: We’re all on the same mailing list. I’ve received five copies of that clever litany.
11. Meg | September 18th, 2008 at 11:14 am
How do I get on that mailing list?
12. DingDong | September 18th, 2008 at 11:45 am
I have one more:
If your name is Barack Obama, it does not matter what you have done in the past. Only whatever promises you make for the future matter. We have had plenty of Havard, Yale and law school graduates run this country. I am not impressed.
13. Pat Cunningham | September 18th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Meg: You understand, of course, that we use the term “mailing list” only metaphorically. To receive stuff like the litany to which Craig and LD referred, you just have to cultivate more friends who are Obamaphiles. It shouldn’t be too hard. They’re everywhere.
14. hokumboy | September 18th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
I got it too!
15. equalityrkfd= | September 18th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I got it also, we all must be on the same list, because we are EVERYWHERE!
16. Meg | September 18th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Or read these blogs more ………….
Actually, I have seen all of those facts, just not so nicely strung together like they are here.
17. Orlando Clay | September 18th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Pat Cunningham wrote: “Orlando: You shouldn’t be listening to Limbaugh. It can cause brain damage (or dain bramage, as it were).”
LOL!
Pat, I sincerely appreciate your concern, but I assure you that my daily intake of right-wing histrionics, hubris, and hyperbole (i.e., Limbaugh, Hannity, and O’Reilly) is quite adequately counterbalanced by a mixed dose of reality and sanity (Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow)!
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