Comments on: McCain aide blasts the NYT, but McCain himself has had cozy relationships with the paper http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/ Pat Cunningham offers an unabashedly liberal perspective on national politics. A note of caution: The language gets a litttle salty on some of the sites to which this blog links. So, don't say you weren't warned. By the way, this blog's name is inspired by the Will Rogers quote, "All politics is applesauce." Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:19:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.4 By: Craig Knauss http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6882 Craig Knauss Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:31:16 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6882 Here's a reality check for Mike Carroll and other rightwingers who fail to see what's obvious to the rest of us. John McCain is likely suffering the onset of dementia. He is 72. Dementia starts in most people in their 50s. It is a gradual process that accelerates with age. I saw it in my father who passed away in a nursing home at age 76. He didn't even recognize my mother. My wife and I are having to deal with her father's rapidly progressing dementia. He is 83 and sometimes thinks his daughter is his wife and that he has talked to his long deceased mother. Mr. McCain has always been a gentleman, but his behavior is gradually going downhill. I wish it wasn't true, but it will happen to nearly everybody eventually. Can we truly expect that he will make the correct decisions in times of stress? Experience can be gained. Dementia cannot be cured. Here’s a reality check for Mike Carroll and other rightwingers who fail to see what’s obvious to the rest of us. John McCain is likely suffering the onset of dementia. He is 72. Dementia starts in most people in their 50s. It is a gradual process that accelerates with age. I saw it in my father who passed away in a nursing home at age 76. He didn’t even recognize my mother. My wife and I are having to deal with her father’s rapidly progressing dementia. He is 83 and sometimes thinks his daughter is his wife and that he has talked to his long deceased mother. Mr. McCain has always been a gentleman, but his behavior is gradually going downhill. I wish it wasn’t true, but it will happen to nearly everybody eventually. Can we truly expect that he will make the correct decisions in times of stress?

Experience can be gained. Dementia cannot be cured.

]]> By: bannernews http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6868 bannernews Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:03:37 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6868 John McCain' behavior over the last week is truly something to be feared. John McCain’ behavior over the last week is truly something to be feared.

]]> By: Mike Carroll http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6866 Mike Carroll Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:54:21 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6866 Pat-at least one of us is being obtuse. I did not complain about the editorial slant of the NYT and I specifically acknowledged the difference. You liberals are so uptight when it comes to criticsm of the NYT. It is a shame to see a once great paper in its death throes. Pat-at least one of us is being obtuse. I did not complain about the editorial slant of the NYT and I specifically acknowledged the difference.
You liberals are so uptight when it comes to criticsm of the NYT. It is a shame to see a once great paper in its death throes.

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6863 Pat Cunningham Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:37:34 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6863 Mike: I did, indeed, read your entire comment. The fact remains that you faulted the Times for failing to present “a balanced point of view in either its news coverage or its editorials.” And which paper, pray tell, has balanced points of view in its editorials? You should have limited your criticism to the news coverage. But no, you complained about unbalanced editorials, too. Mike: I did, indeed, read your entire comment. The fact remains that you faulted the Times for failing to present “a balanced point of view in either its news coverage or its editorials.” And which paper, pray tell, has balanced points of view in its editorials? You should have limited your criticism to the news coverage. But no, you complained about unbalanced editorials, too.

]]> By: Mike Carroll http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6862 Mike Carroll Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:26:17 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6862 Pat-I see you didn't read my entire comment re editorials vs news reporting. See the final sentence in Comment 3. As far as George Will's column, as usual, he is right and his final paragraph is the clincher. "It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed? " I am voting for McCain because I fear him less than Obama. Is this the best we can do? Pat-I see you didn’t read my entire comment re editorials vs news reporting. See the final sentence in Comment 3. As far as George Will’s column, as usual, he is right and his final paragraph is the clincher.
“It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed? ”
I am voting for McCain because I fear him less than Obama.
Is this the best we can do?

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6861 Pat Cunningham Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:20:56 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6861 Mike: The point of the post is that the McCain people are hypocritical concerning the Times. They imply that the paper lacks credibility because of its bias, but they frequently cite the paper as a reliable source for certain negative items regarding Obama. Then, too, McCain is pretty chummy with some reporters at the Times and has depended on the paper to burnish his image. This recent bashing of the Times is just a case of the McCain camp playing to the GOP base. One more thing: You fault the Times for failing to present "a balanced point of view in either its news coverage or its editorials." But editorials, by definition, aren't supposed to present balanced points of view. Neither, in certain cases, are news stories (but that's a subject for another day). Mike: The point of the post is that the McCain people are hypocritical concerning the Times. They imply that the paper lacks credibility because of its bias, but they frequently cite the paper as a reliable source for certain negative items regarding Obama. Then, too, McCain is pretty chummy with some reporters at the Times and has depended on the paper to burnish his image. This recent bashing of the Times is just a case of the McCain camp playing to the GOP base.

One more thing: You fault the Times for failing to present “a balanced point of view in either its news coverage or its editorials.” But editorials, by definition, aren’t supposed to present balanced points of view. Neither, in certain cases, are news stories (but that’s a subject for another day).

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6859 Pat Cunningham Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:11:32 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6859 I'm way ahead of you, bannernews. I just now put up a post on the Will column. I’m way ahead of you, bannernews. I just now put up a post on the Will column.

]]> By: bannernews http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6858 bannernews Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:59:43 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6858 Might want to read what George Will , an intellegent conseravtive, has to say in the Washington Post this morning. "McCain loses his head" Might want to read what George Will , an intellegent conseravtive, has to say in the Washington Post this morning. “McCain loses his head”

]]> By: Mike Carroll http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6857 Mike Carroll Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:47:35 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6857 Pat-It must be a bit too early for you, more of a nightowl I assume.I suspect you know precisely my point but I'll make it a bit more obvious if you like. If I were to assert that the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal present a balanced point of view in the liberal vs. consevative debate you could correctly question my view of reality.Similarly, anyone who believes that the NYT presents a balanced point of view in either its news coverage or its editorials has at least one foot in lah lah land. And before you gleefully pounce, I am quite aware of the difference between editorial pages and news coverage. Pat-It must be a bit too early for you, more of a nightowl I assume.I suspect you know precisely my point but I’ll make it a bit more obvious if you like.
If I were to assert that the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal present a balanced point of view in the liberal vs. consevative debate you could correctly question my view of reality.Similarly, anyone who believes that the NYT presents a balanced point of view in either its news coverage or its editorials has at least one foot in lah lah land.
And before you gleefully pounce, I am quite aware of the difference between editorial pages and news coverage.

]]> By: Pat Cunningham http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6856 Pat Cunningham Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:28:48 +0000 http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/09/22/mccain-aide-blasts-the-nyt-but-mccain-himself-has-had-cozy-relationships-with-the-paper/#comment-6856 Mike: Please let me know when you come up with a comment that actually has a point to it -- y'know something that specifically relates to the post to which it is attached. Mike: Please let me know when you come up with a comment that actually has a point to it — y’know something that specifically relates to the post to which it is attached.

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