Posted by Pat Cunningham on Sep 24, 2008 in Uncategorized | 11 comments
HERE‘s the story.
It\’s actions like this that caused my wife to drop her membership years ago.
Look here for the other side:
Except in this case FactCheck.org got it totally wrong, as one can see from both my blog, Check out Dave Kopel’s post (http://volokh.com/posts/1222201928.shtml). Fact Check is usually pretty good, but in this case, they don’t seem to know what they are talking about.
From the ‘impartial’ factcheck author on the NRA:
“They are lying. This is what they do. This is how they make their money. Do these people have no shame? They are just making this up. I just wish that they would tell the truth.”
I don’t think that Obama was betting on the NRA crowd for too much support in this election anyway. Where did I put that crate of AK47′s any?
Obama voted to allow lawsuits against gun manufacturers. Home rule should not trump the second amendment. So, I don’t think Obama is a gun owners friend.
DingDong: A few questions: Do you think there are any limits to Second Amendment rights? Do you think the Second Amendment gives private citizens the right to keep and bear any kind of weapons they want? Bazookas? Anti-aircraft weapons? Missile launchers? Bombs? What are the limits?
Oh, one other question: Do you need firearms to feel safe?
No, wait. One more: Are you afraid of things that go bump in the night?
Sorry, one more: Do you keep firearms with thoughts of using them against an oppressive government?
OK. That’s enough for now.
FactCheck is full of [censored] on this one. I used to respect them for seeming to try to be non-partisan, but they’re going into so many contortions to try to excuse Obama’s record that it’s pathetic.
When they’re this clearly wrong on an issue that I’ve personally investigated and know a great deal of the background about, it makes me suspect that they’re full of [censored] on other issues also and I just didn’t realize it because I didn’t know enough about the other situations to know better.
I love Dave Hardy’s link to the right-wing National Review which automatically assumes that everything Obama says is a lie with regard to guns and probably everything else. The fact is, the NRA misrepresented everything that Obama has said about guns, without offering any proof whatsoever that Obama wasn’t being truthful. As the Review stated, Obama lived in a crime ridden neighborhood (where many people had guns for protection).
And just where are the limits to “own and bear arms”? Am I allowed to place Claymore mines in my front yard? Can I carry Sarin in my pocket? How about using Stinger missles?
There should not be much limits to the second amendments. No I do not believe that citizens should own Bazookas or anything of type. Your just being ridiculous to prove a point. Some form of concealed carry is allowed in 48 states. Chicago has some of the most rigid gun laws in America and the highest crime rate. Firearms do add an extra level of security. I don’t have the childish(typical liberal) notion that the police can be everywhere. No, I am not afraid of anything in the night. Ask the people in New Orleans that stay during and after Katrina what was one the most important things to have…a gun. So when some piece of human garbage breaks into your house, see if you can out debate on reasons not to harm you or your family before the police arrives. It is good to see you actually do read history and not just liberal blogs and happen to know one of the reasons that we have the second amendment.
You obviously know your wrong, you changed the focus of the conversation.
Looks these up if you question Obama’s gun stance:
Obama Was Director Of Anti-Gun Joyce Foundation, Which Spent Millions On Gun-Control Causes
In 2004, Obama Called For Federal Legislation To Pre-empt State Concealed Carry Laws
Obama: “I am not in favor of concealed weapons … I think that creates a potential atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations.” (Mike Wereschagin and David M. Brown, “Candidates’ Gun Control Positions May Figure In Pa. Vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 4/2/08)
I thought Obama did not want have legislation that interfered with local laws????
Sebastian: The link in this post is to PolitiFact, not FactCheck. org.
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