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	<description>Pat Cunningham offers an unabashedly liberal perspective on national politics. A note of caution: The language gets a litttle salty on some of the sites to which this blog links. So, don't say you weren't warned. By the way, this blog's name is inspired by the Will Rogers quote, "All politics is applesauce."</description>
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		<title>By: echo4charlie</title>
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		<author>echo4charlie</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right you are, sir.

The "Blue Helmets" sure do have a tremendous peacekeeping record, don't they............................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right you are, sir.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Blue Helmets&#8221; sure do have a tremendous peacekeeping record, don&#8217;t they&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DingDong</title>
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		<author>DingDong</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You also forgot that Obambi recommended a UN resolution, which Russia can stop with its veto. You know how effective the UN can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You also forgot that Obambi recommended a UN resolution, which Russia can stop with its veto. You know how effective the UN can be.</p>
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		<title>By: echo4charlie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/10/08/right-wingers-aghast-at-mccains-plan-for-the-government-to-buy-up-bad-mortgages/#comment-7586</link>
		<author>echo4charlie</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's look at it from another angle.  Let's call what the central defining issue in this election should be.

I say judgement.  That's where I'm basing my decision.

-Protecting American lives and American interests from serious threats in Iran, Iraq and Russia 

-Helping the U.S. establish real energy independence in the years ahead 

Those are the two factors most focal to me.  I understand different things are more important to different people, so the focal issue is up for debate, and there are a lot of other important issues as well.

Senator Obama and his chief advisors have absolutely all but conceded that Senator Obama has next to no foreign policy experience. He was, after all, a community organizer, and has spent most of his time in the Senate running for President. 

Senator Obama's camp maintains experience is not that important. I don't think that any of us can argue that. That is in the open.

The central and defining issue, in their arguement, is a candidate’s judgment.  Senator Obama, himself, said in his acceptance speech in Denver: “If John McCain wants to have a debate about who has the temperament, and judgment, to serve as the next Commander-in-Chief, that’s a debate I’m ready to have.”

I think that this is definately a debate worth having.  And, one that be disastorous for Senator Obama's campaign.

Senator Obama has shown disastrous judgment on Iran, Iraq, Russia and energy independence, as Governor Palin and Rudy Guiliani so effectively noted

Look at his judgement on the Russian invasion of Georgia, as example.  Senator Obama`s judgment was wrong. It was flawed. His first instinct was to tell a Democratic free country to show restraint in defending itself from Vladimir Putin`s invasion. What kind of a judgment is that?

Let's move to Iraq.  We`ve got the Anbar province. Nobody in the media is covering this, but we do, and have for a while. This was undisputedly the most dangerous place in all of Iraq. Most resigned to the mindset that it could never be done. Senator  Obama was one of them, as I remember him stating that more troops wouldn`t help. Approximately one U.S. soldier was dying per day in Anbar, at that time. 

When we handed the keys to the city over to the Iraqis, our soldiers weren`t even wearing Kevlar, As a matter of fact, they didn`t even carry a gun to the ceremony, and everything was fine. 

Senator Obama has been horribly wrong, and yet he`s still claiming victory.(?)

To this day, though, Senator Obama will not admit that he had flawed judgment.  An ABC news reporter, I think that it was Terry Moran, had brought to light that Senator Obama had still refused to acknowledge that the surge had worked (I think that this was his second  trip to Iraq&#62;). And yet, as we can all plainly see, and know, the surge has worked, I think that we can all agree, phenomenally well. 

Senator Obama, when the surge policy was announced in January 2007 said not only said it wouldn`t work, but it would make things worse. That is very clearly wrong. It was proven, last month, that 11 out of 18 provinces in Iraq are now under Iraqi military control. 

Senator Obama opposes drilling for American oil in America, and offshore. “Offshore oil drilling will have little impact on prices,” Sen. Obama said in an August 2008 speech in Iowa. “It won’t lower prices today. It won’t lower prices during the next administration. In fact, we won’t see a drop of oil from this drilling for almost 10 years.” Without drilling for American oil in America, how does Sen. Obama plan to wean us off of Middle Eastern oil and protect our energy security? After all, we actually have a lot of oil we could use for ourselves — if we could only drill for it.

It just really leads me to question what type of foreign policy judgment, or judgment with respect for our best interest (both as a people and a nation),  our community activist junior senator is bringing to the table.

I'm not all so comfortable, right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s look at it from another angle.  Let&#8217;s call what the central defining issue in this election should be.</p>
<p>I say judgement.  That&#8217;s where I&#8217;m basing my decision.</p>
<p>-Protecting American lives and American interests from serious threats in Iran, Iraq and Russia </p>
<p>-Helping the U.S. establish real energy independence in the years ahead </p>
<p>Those are the two factors most focal to me.  I understand different things are more important to different people, so the focal issue is up for debate, and there are a lot of other important issues as well.</p>
<p>Senator Obama and his chief advisors have absolutely all but conceded that Senator Obama has next to no foreign policy experience. He was, after all, a community organizer, and has spent most of his time in the Senate running for President. </p>
<p>Senator Obama&#8217;s camp maintains experience is not that important. I don&#8217;t think that any of us can argue that. That is in the open.</p>
<p>The central and defining issue, in their arguement, is a candidate’s judgment.  Senator Obama, himself, said in his acceptance speech in Denver: “If John McCain wants to have a debate about who has the temperament, and judgment, to serve as the next Commander-in-Chief, that’s a debate I’m ready to have.”</p>
<p>I think that this is definately a debate worth having.  And, one that be disastorous for Senator Obama&#8217;s campaign.</p>
<p>Senator Obama has shown disastrous judgment on Iran, Iraq, Russia and energy independence, as Governor Palin and Rudy Guiliani so effectively noted</p>
<p>Look at his judgement on the Russian invasion of Georgia, as example.  Senator Obama`s judgment was wrong. It was flawed. His first instinct was to tell a Democratic free country to show restraint in defending itself from Vladimir Putin`s invasion. What kind of a judgment is that?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s move to Iraq.  We`ve got the Anbar province. Nobody in the media is covering this, but we do, and have for a while. This was undisputedly the most dangerous place in all of Iraq. Most resigned to the mindset that it could never be done. Senator  Obama was one of them, as I remember him stating that more troops wouldn`t help. Approximately one U.S. soldier was dying per day in Anbar, at that time. </p>
<p>When we handed the keys to the city over to the Iraqis, our soldiers weren`t even wearing Kevlar, As a matter of fact, they didn`t even carry a gun to the ceremony, and everything was fine. </p>
<p>Senator Obama has been horribly wrong, and yet he`s still claiming victory.(?)</p>
<p>To this day, though, Senator Obama will not admit that he had flawed judgment.  An ABC news reporter, I think that it was Terry Moran, had brought to light that Senator Obama had still refused to acknowledge that the surge had worked (I think that this was his second  trip to Iraq&gt;). And yet, as we can all plainly see, and know, the surge has worked, I think that we can all agree, phenomenally well. </p>
<p>Senator Obama, when the surge policy was announced in January 2007 said not only said it wouldn`t work, but it would make things worse. That is very clearly wrong. It was proven, last month, that 11 out of 18 provinces in Iraq are now under Iraqi military control. </p>
<p>Senator Obama opposes drilling for American oil in America, and offshore. “Offshore oil drilling will have little impact on prices,” Sen. Obama said in an August 2008 speech in Iowa. “It won’t lower prices today. It won’t lower prices during the next administration. In fact, we won’t see a drop of oil from this drilling for almost 10 years.” Without drilling for American oil in America, how does Sen. Obama plan to wean us off of Middle Eastern oil and protect our energy security? After all, we actually have a lot of oil we could use for ourselves — if we could only drill for it.</p>
<p>It just really leads me to question what type of foreign policy judgment, or judgment with respect for our best interest (both as a people and a nation),  our community activist junior senator is bringing to the table.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not all so comfortable, right now.</p>
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		<title>By: DingDong</title>
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		<author>DingDong</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milt: a second hand account from an editor at Rolling Stone Magazine? Give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milt: a second hand account from an editor at Rolling Stone Magazine? Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: echo4charlie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/10/08/right-wingers-aghast-at-mccains-plan-for-the-government-to-buy-up-bad-mortgages/#comment-7579</link>
		<author>echo4charlie</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/10/08/right-wingers-aghast-at-mccains-plan-for-the-government-to-buy-up-bad-mortgages/#comment-7579</guid>
		<description>Pat,

I see your point, and I (try to) do the same (however disagreement and debate will arise).

I haven't seen too many racists on his page, though (of which I am not).  I don't care if they are Black, White, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, South American, or what (in heritage), as long as the candidate was born a US citizen, on US soil.

I just think Senator Obama is the worse of two bad choices.  In hypothetical, I'd support Colin Powell in two seconds, but, I'd pass on Wesley Clark.  I'd support Condoleeza Rice, but pass on John Edwards.  I, actually, liked John Kerry.  And, in his concession, he showed real class.  I thought he was a class act through the entire campaign.  But, I didn't agree with all of his politics, either.

It'll take a while, but, we'll see, down the road, that President Bush isn't as dumb as many think.  There are things we don't know, and shouldn't know.  He and Vice President Cheney have a pretty clear picture of our global crisis, threats, and those whom pose upcoming threat if not addressed.

There are just too many more questionable and denied connections to radicals and criminals on Senator Obama's behalf that Senator McCain's.   I truly think he is a Jimmy Carter reincarnate (in office).

Ultimately, though, on election day, we'll tell the world our (popular) choice, thorough our vote, and the Electoral College will tell us who they have decided that we get (regardless of popular vote).

And, we'll get the pros and cons with whomever they choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>I see your point, and I (try to) do the same (however disagreement and debate will arise).</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen too many racists on his page, though (of which I am not).  I don&#8217;t care if they are Black, White, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, South American, or what (in heritage), as long as the candidate was born a US citizen, on US soil.</p>
<p>I just think Senator Obama is the worse of two bad choices.  In hypothetical, I&#8217;d support Colin Powell in two seconds, but, I&#8217;d pass on Wesley Clark.  I&#8217;d support Condoleeza Rice, but pass on John Edwards.  I, actually, liked John Kerry.  And, in his concession, he showed real class.  I thought he was a class act through the entire campaign.  But, I didn&#8217;t agree with all of his politics, either.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll take a while, but, we&#8217;ll see, down the road, that President Bush isn&#8217;t as dumb as many think.  There are things we don&#8217;t know, and shouldn&#8217;t know.  He and Vice President Cheney have a pretty clear picture of our global crisis, threats, and those whom pose upcoming threat if not addressed.</p>
<p>There are just too many more questionable and denied connections to radicals and criminals on Senator Obama&#8217;s behalf that Senator McCain&#8217;s.   I truly think he is a Jimmy Carter reincarnate (in office).</p>
<p>Ultimately, though, on election day, we&#8217;ll tell the world our (popular) choice, thorough our vote, and the Electoral College will tell us who they have decided that we get (regardless of popular vote).</p>
<p>And, we&#8217;ll get the pros and cons with whomever they choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
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		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Andrew: Coincidentally,  ConservativeAmerican is one of the blogs to which I linked in the above post. (It's the third of the four links
in the last paragraph.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Andrew: Coincidentally,  ConservativeAmerican is one of the blogs to which I linked in the above post. (It&#8217;s the third of the four links<br />
in the last paragraph.)</p>
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		<title>By: Milton Waddams</title>
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		<author>Milton Waddams</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw this today, found it pretty interesting and very believable considering what I have seen of John McCain.

&lt;a href="http://www.truthout.org/100508A" rel="nofollow"&gt; The Make believe Maverick &lt;/a&gt;

It is pretty long, but then again short soundbites are most of the problem these days...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw this today, found it pretty interesting and very believable considering what I have seen of John McCain.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthout.org/100508A" rel="nofollow"> The Make believe Maverick </a></p>
<p>It is pretty long, but then again short soundbites are most of the problem these days&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Andrew</title>
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		<author>Peter Andrew</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the turth about Conservatives (Sorry Pat) check out ConservativeAmerican.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the turth about Conservatives (Sorry Pat) check out ConservativeAmerican.org</p>
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		<title>By: DingDong</title>
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		<author>DingDong</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat: Your gullible one, a lifelong liberal. For the most part I back my comments with facts. I also use credible sources. Your the one who thinks the Huffington Post is a reliable source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat: Your gullible one, a lifelong liberal. For the most part I back my comments with facts. I also use credible sources. Your the one who thinks the Huffington Post is a reliable source.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/10/08/right-wingers-aghast-at-mccains-plan-for-the-government-to-buy-up-bad-mortgages/#comment-7567</link>
		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2008/10/08/right-wingers-aghast-at-mccains-plan-for-the-government-to-buy-up-bad-mortgages/#comment-7567</guid>
		<description>Charlie: One other thing: You might want to consider that my standards of veracity are a lot higher than yours. On numerous occasions, I've declined to post reports and rumors about McCain and Palin that seemed to me to be insufficiently documented.  I won't even mention the subjects here, but they covered matters that, if true, would reflect very badly on the Republican nominees. The latest such example arose just this morning.  I was tempted, I'll admit, but I took a pass, because the evidence was a little iffy. You see, the left-wing blogosphere too often trafficks in unfounded rumors. But the right-wing blogosphere is far worse -- especially the rabid racists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie: One other thing: You might want to consider that my standards of veracity are a lot higher than yours. On numerous occasions, I&#8217;ve declined to post reports and rumors about McCain and Palin that seemed to me to be insufficiently documented.  I won&#8217;t even mention the subjects here, but they covered matters that, if true, would reflect very badly on the Republican nominees. The latest such example arose just this morning.  I was tempted, I&#8217;ll admit, but I took a pass, because the evidence was a little iffy. You see, the left-wing blogosphere too often trafficks in unfounded rumors. But the right-wing blogosphere is far worse &#8212; especially the rabid racists.</p>
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