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• 1. echo4charlie  |  October 10th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

  Then I’m one of the one-third who do. I think the guy is a dangerous radical nut.

  Favorite Ayers photo? Hard to say……………..

  I guess it is the one where we placed Old Glory (our United States Flag, for any who don’t know) in the dirt, stood on top of it, and had his photo taken.

  Had I been there, they would have gotten an even better photo of me breaking his legs and beating him to a pulp. But, I digress……

  No candidate running for any Government office, or otherwise, should want anything to do with this guy. He certainly shouldn’t be a professor. What is he teaching our kids?

  Liberal, Democrat, Green, Republican, whatever, well, I think we can all agree, no mater our political affiliation preference, that Ayers is a dangerous nut, and, although he was born in the US (to the best of my knowledge), he’s no American (at least, not in my book).

  We should extradite him to Cuba.

• 2. Milton Waddams  |  October 10th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

  I agree with his right to protest the Vietnam war, however I don’t at all agree with his methods. I think the question we need to ask ourselves as part of this is when do protesters become terrorists?

• 3. Pat Cunningham  |  October 10th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

  Ooh. Charlie’s real tough. He wants to beat up a hippie. I’m impressed.

  Grow up, Mr. Macho. Violence in politics is wrong, no matter which side resorts to it.

  And for all your crazy blather, you still haven’t proved any close relationship between Obama and Ayers. Give it up, Nutso! There is not now and never was any close relationship, and all of your demented wishing won’t change that fact.

  My God, Obama hadn’t even reached puberty when Ayers was a violent activist. When are you going to recognize that incontrovertible fact?

  You’re a hateful man, Charlie.

• 4. Drew  |  October 10th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

  True, Obama hadn’t even reached puberty when Ayers was a violent activist. But Ayers still hasn’t admitted his wrong doing, in fact he admitted he got off on a technicality.

  The fact is Obama has a history of ascending to power through association of some very questionable people. Convicted felon Tony Rezko. Unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers. And the race-baiting Rev. Jeremiah Wright

  For the rest of my argument, I have to differ to Mr. Krauthammer. (whom I briefly plagiarized)

  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/09/AR2008100902328.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

• 5. Pat Cunningham  |  October 10th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

  Drew: What does Obama have to do with the fact that Bill Ayers hasn’t admitted his wrongdoing? And what about John McCain ascending to power through his assocation with jailbird Charles Keating?

• 6. David Johnson  |  October 10th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

  Pat. Show me evidence that Obama isn’t a terrorist sympithizing, graft taking, typical liberal. You can’t. Because he is. And the main stream press (guys like you) are giving him a “get out of jail free card”. I can assure you, if McCain were to have the same associations with members of the Posse Comitatus or similar organization you’d be all over it. Your opinions are meaningless because your hypocracy is transparent.

• 7. Jon  |  October 10th, 2008 at 3:21 pm

  hmmm….so David, you have to show evidence that you\’re not a subversive type??? And…\"typical liberals\" are terrorist sympathizing (note the correct spelling, David) and graft taking. Wow, thanks for illuminating what I\’m really all about. I didn\’t realize just how bad I am. Maybe I should resign from my church and my involvement in community activities. I would hate to be a bad influence on some future politician.

• 8. Steelhawk  |  October 10th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

  Let’s be honest. There is no morals in the Dem party. This is a party that thinks Ted Kennedy is some sort of a great person. For God’s sake, he killed a woman and left her to die while he slept off his drunk. Pat Cunningham is no person to argue with. His moral side of his brain is dead…. DEAD. Liberals have always been mentally challenged. These people kill unborn childeren at a drop of a hat, then protest when a serial killer is put to death. This is ok in their minds. It’s just amazing the things they do, then criticize desent hard working americans. Cunningham is a journalist. That isn’t work. That’s just someone getting paid to put his opinion on paper. Real men don’t write for newspapers….

• 9. Pat Cunningham  |  October 10th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

  David: You still don’t get it. One doesn’t have to prove one’s innocence. His accusers have to prove his guilt. You can’t prove that Obama is a grafter or a terrorist sympathizer. What if I asked you to prove that you’re not a child molester? What if I asked you to prove that you haven’t had intimate relations with barnyard animals? What if I said your denials of child molestation or beastiality are insufficient proof that you’re innocent of such practices? That would be unfair, wouldn’t it? Of course it would. Why can’t you extend to others the same kind of fairness you would demand for yourself? No wonder you’re going to vote for McCain.

• 10. Will Pfeifer  |  October 10th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

  David, what about a certain GOP vice presidential candidate’s ties to a known secessionist, anti-American group? Should those be investigated? Sounds suspicious to me.

• 11. Pat Cunningham  |  October 10th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

  Steelhead says: “There is no morals in the Dem party.” I say there is no grammars in Steelhead’s head. He sounds like some of those slackjaws who show up at McCain-Palin rallies to vent their rage. Lovely people.

• 12. Pat Cunningham  |  October 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

  Will: Don’t mess with David Johnson, or he’ll demand that you prove you weren’t involved in the Lincoln assassination. Your denials will mean nothing to him. David would fit in nicely in some oppressive society where the jackboots assume that you’re guilty until you prove otherwise — and sometimes not even then.

  By the way, David, there are other David Johnsons in Rockford who resent being confused with anyone who thinks as you do. Maybe you can accuse them of something nefarious.

• 13. LD  |  October 10th, 2008 at 3:55 pm

  I think I figured it out. David, Steelhawk, Drew, Echo and Company are all heavily invested in pencils and fedoras.

• 14. Drew  |  October 10th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

  I resent that statement! I haven’t worn any of my dozen fedoras for at least a week now.

• 15. bannernews  |  October 10th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

  Charlie:

  Bill Ayers father was the CEO of Commonwealth Edison. Have any of you rightwing loudmouths ever heard of Google. It will open a whole new universe of information to you or do you just have RUSH radio in your bunker.

• 16. DingDong  |  October 10th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

  Maybe if type slow..Pat will get it. You see, Ayers is admitted Marxist socialist. So it only goes to reason that he would only involve him with or promote organizations or people that support his beliefs. So you see, with Obuma serving on the same board as Ayers, by using logic, which nobody who is liberal seems to have, Obambi would have been support of an organization that was a best socialist. Also, Obama launched his political career at Ayers home. Now would Ayers help out someone politically if they did not have similar views? I don’t think so. I know Pat will just send me a link to the huffington post hole.

• 17. David Johnson  |  October 10th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

  Pat. It’s easy enough for me to prove my moral fortitude. I could just prove I don’t hang out in the same places you do. btw…when did you quit beating your…ah no…that’s to easy…hahahahaha

• 18. hokumboy  |  October 10th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

  Pat,
  as I said off-line, I’m so relieved that THIS David Johnson, isn’t THAT David Johnson. I really hope no one confuses this demented doppleganger with the Davy Johnson we know and respect.

• 19. Echo4Charlie  |  October 10th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

  Pat,

  I’m a hateful man? No, not nearly as hateful than you. I just detest those who detest America, and what it stand for, but don’t leave because they enjoy all of our conveniences and benefits.

  “Ooh. Charlie’s real tough. He wants to beat up a hippie. I’m impressed. Grow up, Mr. Macho.”

  I’m not the only one who’s got a little growing up to do. I haven’t hear anyone taunt anyone else like that since i was a kid.

  I’ll bet you got beat up a lot as a kid. I take that back, throughout your life.

  That’s whay you look so happy in your picture.

  Bannernews,

  “Charlie: Bill Ayers father was the CEO of Commonwealth Edison. Have any of you rightwing loudmouths ever heard of Google. It will open a whole new universe of information to you or do you just have RUSH radio in your bunker.”

  Doen’t change what he did. Were you there with him, helping his cause(s)?

  If you use google so much, you’d know his admitted terrorist activity.

  You need to climb out of your tree, let the Spotted Owl out of your sight for a moment, put those tree spikes (used to handicap loggers when planted into the trunk of a tree), read the paper, and sit in your unibomber-style shack, and think your comment through a little bit better.

  You’re as wacky as Pat. You guys must hang out………..

• 20. Echo4Charlie  |  October 10th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

  Also, is desecrating Old Glory OK with you, Pat? Freedom of speech. An expression?

  I took an oath, served my country, faced some awful stuff in some ugly places, and even served part of my enlistment under a Commander -In-Cheif who, himself, doged the draft (Vietnam), and moved out of the country.

  I EARNED those same rights that I helped GIVE to nuts like Ayers (to abuse?).

• 21. Pat Cunningham  |  October 10th, 2008 at 9:17 pm

  What does Obama have to do with any of that? And don’t tell me that loathsome lie that he’s a good friend of Ayers. He’s not. Remember, Obama has categorically denounced Ayers for his violent activities (as opposed to John McCain’s praise of convicted felon and ex-con G. Gordon Liddy).

• 22. Pat Cunningham  |  October 10th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

  Charlie: Sorry, I forgot to answer your question regarding flag-desecration. No, it’s not OK with me, but it is protected under our Constitutution. It’s one of those rights that you bravely defended. Happily, flag-desecration is pretty rare in this country. One of the reasons for that is that it’s a very ineffective means of protest. It offends almost everyone. But the First Amendment is intended to protect expression that offends other people. Inoffensive expession doesn’t need First Amendment protection. That’s one of the great things about our Constitution. It protects minority viewpoints. It protects lots of ugly, hateful expression, but that’s the price we pay for freedom. No, we can’t legally yell “Fire!” in a crowded theater, but we can refer to blacks, Jews, women or anybody else in ugly, bigoted terms. I hate those terms, but I don’t want anybody else’s right to use them taken away. It’s the same with flag-desecration. I hate it, but it’s a right. In the final analysis, the First Amendment is more important than the flag. The First Amendment gives us rights. The flag does not. Every country has a flag, but not every country has freedom.

• 23. Craig Knauss  |  October 10th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

  I’m getting sick and tired of hearing how someone has to prove his innocence or he is guilty. What kind of BS is that? The whole premise of our legal system is we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Can David Johnson, or one of the others, PROVE he is not a coke-snorting, cross-dressing, pedophile? Of course not. So by Johnson’s logic, he IS a coke-snorting, cross-dressing, pedophile. Fortunately, for him, our legal system says we have to prove that he is. He does NOT have to prove he isn’t. It’s the same with Obama or anyone else. Sorry David, but if you don’t like that, move to some two-bit dictatorship where you’ll feel more at home. Someplace where you can make cheap. sleazy accusations until the cows come home.

• 24. Henry  |  October 13th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

  Craig - In fascist regimes, you are guilty unless you can prove you are innocent (sometimes that isn’t even enough). What David is saying is entirely consistent with a brownshirt’s mentality.

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