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November 11th, 2008 at 10:09am Pat Cunningham
 
Much of the U.S. Catholic hierarchy tacitly endorsed the presidential candidacy of John McCain, but most of the laity voted for Barack Obama.
Now the bishops are DEBATING their next political step.
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11 Comments Add your own
1. snuss | November 11th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
If you believe that abortion is NOT the murder of an innocent human life, then you shouldn’t claim to be a true Catholic, If you supported Obama, you supported abortion. Find a church who’s rules you CAN live by. Don’t be a hypocrite.
2. equalityrkfd= | November 11th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
If you believe that sexually abusing innocent children and then covering it is not a crime or even something you address and you can feel comfortable in your hypocritcal church, then by all means listen to what the church has to say. It must frustrate these bishops telling people who to vote and deciding who can recieve god that over 50% of the members don’t listen to them. Their power is ebbing…
3. Pat Cunningham | November 11th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
snuss: The Catholic Church says artificial birth control is “intrinsically evil,” but most Catholics disagree. If the church hierarchy pushed to make birth control illegal, the uprising among the laity would be overwhelming. The Vatican is aware of that, which is why it soft-pedals the birth-control issue. So, the hypocrites are on both sides.
4. snuss | November 11th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
It makes about as much sense as an NAACP member supporting the KKK. So, continue the hypocrisy, and pray that you will be forgiven, when you finally stand before St Peter. Or, you could become an atheist. Then, none of this matters, right?
5. Mr. Baseball | November 11th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
The linked article quotes Cardinal Francis George. This is the same Cardinal George who continued the coverup of pedophilia among the clergy and for years delayed the resolution of the legal case against the Chicago diocese and restitution to the victims. This is the same person Iheard declare that there will be no peace in the “holy land” until Jesus returns to earth, thereby accepting more killing in the middle east until who knows when. How does he have any credibility?
6. Juice | November 11th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
The Catholic church is not a good issue for either side. Total hypocrisy all around.
7. barryfan | November 11th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
who cares what the Vatican and its minnions say…most sensible catholics are cafeteria types who use their own brains and don’t cowtow to a dried up pope whose legacy is covering up pediphiliac behavior and protecting higher ups that broke secular as well as moral laws with their behavior.
8. Craig Knauss | November 11th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Most of the Catholics I know have used artificial birth control, many have had divorces, and a whole lot voted for Obama. These Catholics included close friends, relatives, inlaws, and a spouse. But what really surprised me was hearing a Lutheran minister state that on any given Sunday, a third of the worshipers in his church were Catholics. That is the issue the Catholic bishops should be dealing with.
9. unmanager | November 12th, 2008 at 5:29 am
Here’s the deal…I believe abortion is murder. That belief is predicated on a RELIGIOUS concept of life. THAT RELIGIOUS concept is not shared by ALL faiths and a law banning abortion amounts to GOVERNMENT imposition of MY RELIGIOUS beliefs on others.
Where’s the “pro-lifers” fighting the death penalty??
10. coldhotel | November 12th, 2008 at 6:56 am
How far can a church organization go in political advocacy without losing its tax-exempt status? They obviously can’t back candidates, but can they endorse political parties? Can they back ballot initiatives? I’m sure they could excommunicate Joe Biden, but I don’t think that would hold a lot of sway.
11. apostate paul | November 12th, 2008 at 11:32 am
There is no place for dogma in running a government - except in pandering to an electorate for votes. Even the Vatican knows this, which is why it chooses its battles carefully. It’s also clear that the old views about the world are rapidly becoming obsolete. Newer and younger minds tend to vet ideas before committing to them and are less likely to be swayed by polemics against scientific thought and reason. The Catholic faith, conceived at the Council of Nicea and carefully evolved over time (Council of Trent), will now either evolve to maintain its popular roots or fade into irrelevance. Evidence abounds.
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