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• 1. Mike Carroll  |  December 20th, 2008 at 9:16 am

  The first step in recovery, Patrick, is to acknowledge that you have a problem. I have yet to see similar self examination on the liberal side of the aisle.

• 2. Pat Cunningham  |  December 20th, 2008 at 9:56 am

  Mike: The liberal side is winning; hence, self-examination is not required. Ours is a national party. The GOP, on the other hand, has become the Southern Party — not exactly a brand destined for success.

• 3. GP  |  December 20th, 2008 at 11:30 am

  Sadly, Pat, I think you’re right.

  I tend to lean more toward the conservative side, but my Republican party has been hijacked by (mostly southern) fundamentalists. I don’t see things getting better any time soon.

  Although I don’t foresee it happening any time soon, I thnk there needs to be a split in the party before any normalcy can return.

• 4. Orlando Clay  |  December 20th, 2008 at 11:37 am

  Pat Cunningham wrote: “The GOP, on the other hand, has become the Southern Party — not exactly a brand destined for success.”

  As a regular observer of what you have aptly re-christened as the “Southern Party,” it’s interesting to note that the romance with Sarah Palin appears to have been fleeting — at least among the delegation here in Central Florida. Now that former Florida governor Jeb Bush has expressed interest in the Senate seat to be vacated by the retiring Mel Martinez, the loonies on wingnut radio are no longer gushing about Governor Palin as “the best thing to happen to conservatism since Ronald Reagan.” Now, all the buzz is about Jeb easily winning the senatorial election in Florida (which, I’m sorry to say, is indeed likely) and using the Senate as a stepping stone to — you guessed it — the presidency in 2012. Yeah, they really believe that after the past eight years of one colossal Bush failure after another, the nation is going to want to put yet another Bush in the White House. As you said, Pat, this is “not exactly a brand destined for success.” Which, of course, is great news for those of us in the middle or just slightly left of center.

• 5. Mike Carroll  |  December 20th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

  Pat-the liberal side won Congress because the Republicans, not Conservatives, screwed up big time and Rahm Emanuel was smart enough to recruit Conservative Democrats , not Pelosi/Liberal democrats, to run against them.
  Obama was actually running behind McCain in early September and then the market meltdown propelled him to the lead he never lost. Without the meltdown, well, who knows. I don’t think this is the liberal mandate that you seem to think it is and I have every faith that your side will over reach as the Republicans did.
  Orlando thinks he is a centrist or slightly left of center. Thats the kind of self delusion that will inevitably lead your side to over reach but enjoy it while you can. Reality arrives in January.

• 6. Craig Knauss  |  December 21st, 2008 at 6:58 pm

  Mike,

  Reality check time.

  A) The Republicans screwed up because they aligned themselves with the biggoted, sanctimonious religious right. Maybe YOU haven’t noticed, but most of us out here in the real world have had their fill of religious zealots sticking their noses into our personal lives. Most people don’t give a damn what Pat Robertson or the Pope have to say on personal issues. I’m one of them.
  B) Obama wasn’t running behind McCain, except on Fox News polls. He had a slight lead, which turned into a large lead when the economy collapsed. Without the meltdown, it would have been closer, but people were tired of being Bushwhacked.
  C) Orlando is more centrist than you’ll ever be. I’ve read your posts. The neo-cons are not the median. The election should have made that painfully clear. But feel free to bask in YOUR delusion.

• 7. Mike Carroll  |  December 22nd, 2008 at 4:31 pm

  Craig

  Take your Prozac.

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