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• 1. Roger  |  June 20th, 2009 at 10:21 am

  Fox news hypocrisy is nothing compared to the hypocrisy of this blog

• 2. Pat Cunningham  |  June 20th, 2009 at 10:28 am

  Oooh, Roger. Your retorts are so clever and well-reasoned. You da man!

• 3. Richard  |  June 20th, 2009 at 10:38 am

  Take a little offense to the truth there Pat with your response to Roger?
  Pat is on Par. Never post anything about policy or truths. Just attacks and the crap libs throw against the wall to see if it sticks with the uninformed.

• 4. realfoxnews  |  June 20th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

  Pat has always said msnbc was real news and the other three. What would BOBO do if Fox News Channel goes on as a local channel. Then people would get the full balance story, instead of one sided right now.

• 5. Richard  |  June 20th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

  How about a little change we can believe in Pat. Here is just a little list I found.

  Trillions added to our national debt.
  American is having trouble getting other countries to buy American debt
  Obama virtually ignores a corrupt election in Iran. We leave it to French President Sarkozy to speak out for the Iranian people wanting a free election.
  GM and Citigroup now government operations. More to come.
  The government (Obama) gets to set executive compensation levels.
  Obama seeking the ability to seize private businesses.
  Firing inspector generals who uncover corruption involving Obama buddies.
  Overturning established law to favor unions over secured creditors in GM’s bankruptcy.
  Obama wants to reduce tax deductions for charitable deductions. Government doesn’t like competition.
  The Washington DC voucher system, with a great record of success, slated for elimination while Obama’s kids go to private school.
  Obama says 8% unemployment max. We’re nearing 10%
  Obama moves to raise taxes on the small businesses that create the jobs.
  North Korea threatening to send a missile toward Hawaii
  While NK is lobbing missiles, Obama cuts spending in missile defense systems.

• 6. David Barrett  |  June 20th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

  Projecting a little bit Richard? Pat doesn’t just assert that Fox News are hypocrites, he gives examples of their hypocrisy. Roger and Richard have nothing other than assertions. They are like children fling around fact-free insults — ‘Oh yeah?! Well, you’re worse!’

• 7. realfoxnews  |  June 20th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

  David then why is Fox News the most watch news on cable today. MSNBC is so behind court tv news is go past them. Also MSNBC also count if you stop on the channel for a second, fox news doesn’t. So you all keep thinking BOBO is going to change this world to the good.

• 8. Orlando Clay  |  June 20th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

  David Barrett wrote: “They are like children fling around fact-free insults — ‘Oh yeah?! Well, you’re worse!’”

  Well said, David. Here’s another blatant example of hypocrisy by the fine-feathered finks at (as Keith Olbermann now calls them) “ClusterFox”:

  On a sleepless night shortly before the inauguration of President Obama, I recall catching a late-night repeat of one of Bill-O The Clown’s propaganda festivals and vividly remember saying something to effect of (and I am paraphrasing a bit here): “We here at the Factor are looking out for you, and we’re going to start holding our elected politicians to higher standards, regardless of party affiliation. They do something pinheaded, and we’re gonna be all over them.”

  Funny thing…..It’s been over a week since news of Senator John Ensign’s affair with a former staff member first broke, and I can’t seem to find any mention of it in any of the online transcripts of this week’s episodes of “The O’Reilly Factor.” Yet O’Reilly seems to go “all Tonya Harding” if Rep. Barney Frank jaywalks across a Washington street. Gee, do you Cons think that Bill-O’s failure to “be all over” Sen. Ensign has anything to with the fact that he has a “R” instead of a “D” after his name?

  “Fair and balanced.” What complete BS.

  From the June 18, 2009 edition of “Countdown with Keith Olbermann”:

  “FOX News, which is not only a political entity but probably more of a political entity than is the Republican National Committee right now, only it’s fraudulently disguised as some sort of news organization.

  FOX News foments the beliefs that Barack Obama was not born in this country or if he was, somehow he obtained the White House improperly, or if he actually got there properly, he shouldn’t get to stay there.

  And with ever-increasing irrationality, FOX no longer bothers to separate the legitimate means by which he will some day leave there and the illegitimate ones. It is propaganda and bullying and fear-mongering dressed up to look like not merely like news, not merely like the truth, but like the only truth.

  Maybe that’s why Obama would not use the name of the organization. He couldn’t call it the FOX News Channel without bursting into laughter. FOX News Channel, a brand name, like “Virgin Brand Condoms.” “

• 9. Richard  |  June 20th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

  Orlando……you would not know the truth even if it would help you.

  David, The great thing about Fox is that there are both liberals and conservatives on there. I can see how you liberals would get confused to the point in which you think that they are being hypocritical.
  You assert that I am projecting? What rock have you been sleeping under? Tho Obama regime does not want to govern. They look to control.
  What am I projecting?

• 10. Richard  |  June 20th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

  This, my friends, is the future of our country. I can never grasp how liberals think and this clip just confirms my thoughts of how the left beats to their own drum.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIRuRewGVg

  Is that any relation to you Orlando? You tend to come across the same way as her with your Oboma l;ove.

• 11. Orlando Clay  |  June 20th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

  Richard wrote: “I can see how you liberals would get confused to the point in which you think that they are being hypocritical.”

  Richard, we Libs on the blog have provided you with numerous instances of irrefutable proof (via posted videos and transcripts) that Fox News is anything BUT “fair and balanced.” (And as I’ve said in the past on this blog, I have no problem whatsoever with the channel being a 24/7 propaganda extension of the GOP — I strongly object to them claiming to be something they obviously [well, it’s obvious to most of us who live in reality] are not.)

  And, BTW, thank you for suggesting that folks like me are “the future of our country.” I’m well into middle age, but considering the number of college-age folks who voted for President Obama, the future does indeed look bright for our side of the aisle.

• 12. Richard  |  June 20th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

  What planet are you from, Orlando? Your irrefutable proof are nothing more than spoof pieces and I have yet to see anything about policy or agenda. All I see are low end swipes at conservatives. I have asked questions for debate and all I get are off the wall talking points.
  If Obama is doing so many great things? I would think that you ObamaBots would want to talk about those issues.So Libs, Is the sticker shock starting to set in on ObamaCare? From The Wall Street journal.
  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124536826475329427.html

  Well David Barrett. I am projecting again about the Obana spending, right? This is not happening.

• 13. Richard  |  June 20th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

  Orlando…….. Why is the future so bright for those who voted for Obama? All you do insult. So hear is your chance to [deleted] or get off the pot. I am all ears and waiting.

• 14. realfoxnews  |  June 20th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

  orlando Keith is calling Fox news names its because its like a small guy getting his ### kicked by the big boy. You need to start watching real news. Get your facts first then we can talk, or please just pound sand.

• 15. Orlando Clay  |  June 20th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

  Richard wrote: “Orlando…….. Why is the future so bright for those who voted for Obama?”

  I can’t believe that you really have to ask such a question, Richard. I mean, really, how many times do we have to go over this? The various crises that our country is having to deal with today are the direct result of your failed conservative ideology as implemented by the Bush/Cheney regime. You Cons gave this administration eight years to mold our country into a conservative utopia that you envisioned. And it was one disaster after another for your beloved King Midas-in-reverse. The scope of the mess Bush left for President Obama to clean up is of biblical proportions.

  And now our future is bright because we have an administration that is determined to undo all the damage that Bush/Cheney inflicted upon our country. It is a daunting task, to be sure, but YES, WE CAN.

  With the GOP in shambles, and the party, as a whole, with approval ratings lower than (yikes!) Darth Cheney, it’s going to be (at least) a long, cold eight years for you guys. And, since you find it necessary to use obscenities in your response to my post, it appears that you’re not acclimating very well to your term in exile. Get used to it, pal.

• 16. Mike Carroll  |  June 20th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

  I have been gone on vacation with no internet access for eight days and I see the level of discourse on this site has deteriorated substantially. Lets pick up the pace here folks.

• 17. Orlando Clay  |  June 20th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

  Realfoxnews wrote: “Get your facts first then we can talk, or please just pound sand.”

  I have presented a myriad FACTS within this thread (and others) to demonstrate conclusively that Fox News does not live up to its moniker of “fair and balanced.”

  I challenge you, friend, to present one — just one is all I ask — of one instance where Fox News has been unquestionably fair and balanced.

  And, since you mentioned sand, I think I’ll load the dog in the car and drive out to the beach for a Saturday night walk along the Atlantic coast. I’ll check in with you in the morning and see if you’ve posted an example of “fair and balanced” from Fox News. Quite honestly, I think you’ll have a better chance of finding Jimmy Hoffa’s body.

  Goodnight, Cons!

• 18. realfoxnews  |  June 20th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

  orlando one is on acorn lets get the facts on that, the true spending on health care. the true spending on the new wars over seas. the large stimulus bill that had to rushed threw. the firing of Gerald the Law he started him self BOBO. the list goes on. Your so call news channel don’t talk about this. One other thing why cant nobody e-mail worthless Keith at MSNBC does that tell you how bad he is?

• 19. realfoxnews  |  June 20th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

  Orlando Ive been at the beach all day now I’m going to listen to a concert from deck at Alpine Valley. Once again were one above you Orlando.

• 20. snuss  |  June 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

  Pat, why did you pull the Obama/kung-fu fly-swatting satire? Are you becoming so Liberally paranoid that virtually anything can be considered racially inappropriate? If so, you must also consider David Carradine and Sidney Tolar to be racist actors.

• 21. Richard  |  June 20th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

  Again Orlando, What planet did you come from? You just threw out all the crap that liberals throw out looking for it to stick to the wall.What Bush did is done and gone and there is a new dog in the fight.
  The last two years of the Bush administration you libs had control of congress. What Bush’s problem was the fact that he did not know what a veto is. So who do you think was behind a lot of that spending that you rave about? The same people who had control creating that legislation that had to pass it to even get to Bush. There is enough blame for both side to go around there.. Like I have said before. I was not of fan of Bush’s spending and lack of veto’s but he took protecting America serious. You libs are so anti America that you have forgot about 9/11. You libs decided that showing the plane footage of that day was offensive. I believe many Americans with short memories should revisit that footage.
  Again Orlando!!!!! Do you have a clue to the legislation and spending that the libs are bringing to congress in the coming weeks? How about Obama Care? The cap-and-trade bill is back in the mix. Do you know what that is about or you just a full fledged ObamaBot that just goes along as programed not having a clue to what you are supporting?

• 22. Roger  |  June 21st, 2009 at 7:10 am

  Ahh boo hoo did I hurt your little feelings Pat..Poor thing.

  Barrett and Orlando you are like MINDLESS children.

  My facts are this blog (applesauce) is one sided,hypocritical to a much greater degree than Fox News. Oh yeah I talking of you Pat you talk about your hero Bill he is much more fair than you.

  Of course both are better than MSNBC.

  Orlando and Barrett time is up, back to your special needs class.

• 23. Roger  |  June 21st, 2009 at 7:12 am

  All Politics aside though..

  I hope all the Fathers out there have a great Fathers day today.

  Enjoy your day men..

• 24. Orlando Clay  |  June 21st, 2009 at 10:00 am

  Well, realfoxnews, after 15 hours, you still haven’t come up with any kind of example to conclusively demonstrate the ridiculous Fox News claim of being “fair and balanced,” while the examples of extreme right-wing bias on the part of the so-called news channel are legion and can be found all over the Internet. I rest my case.

  I’ve reached the conclusion that you, along with several other of your ilk who frequent this board, are hard-wired-for-life Cons who have no interest whatsoever in seeing our country restored to the greatness it was before the reins were handed off to the Bush/Cheney cabal. You are, without a doubt, very bitter over the election of President Obama, and there’s nothing any of us Libs can do or say to convince you that it’s vitally important for all of us to come together and work to solve this mess. Your party is so bankrupt of ideas (sorry, cutting taxes for the wealthy isn’t going to solve anything) that all it can manage to do at this point is to spit vile and be sore-loser obstructionists. And that’s fine with me. Take your ball and go home if you feel it to be necessary, but please stay out of our way as we try to rebuild our country and its economy.

• 25. realfoxnews  |  June 21st, 2009 at 11:17 am

  So orlando I came up with some but you wont talk about the firing of the guy name Gerald this is a guy BOBO fired under his owen law in supported back in 2007-2008. Why wont you talk about acorn and any other channel like Keith or Rachel MSNBC. Why is the unions getting the better deals when it comes too the BIG THREE, is because BOBO gets alot money from them YES IT IS. Do I need to go on. Once again Orlando pound sand or sick or head in it because you don’t know your talking about.

• 26. realfoxnews  |  June 21st, 2009 at 4:01 pm

  Pat you are so wrong again my name is not Joe Daly, So why do most of the people you went to school with or know at Aquin think you are so full of hot air. You knife in the back but your nice too their face. So once again another Lib doing a story with out the facts.

• 27. Richard  |  June 22nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm

  Orlando wrote
  “Your party is so bankrupt of ideas (sorry, cutting taxes for the wealthy isn’t going to solve anything) that all it can manage to do at this point is to spit vile and be sore-loser obstructionists. ”
  Well Orlando, 50 % of Americans do not pay any taxes. The top 1% pay 40 % of all taxes paid. So who do you think creates jobs? Loser’s like you? A guy who uses Kieth Overbite as a source of information? LOL If you penalize the people who create jobs? The less jobs there will be created. Can you tell me the tax rate that the rich pay now? I have asked you before to no answer. How about manning up for once and tell me. Maybe Pat can help you.
  What did you think of JFK as President? Funny how you libs live and die on talking points for the mindless. JFK must have been for the rich too as he knew that cutting taxes spurred economic growth which resulted in higher tax revenue. Bush tax cuts also brought in higher revenue but he did nothing to curb spending. That is on him too in my opinion.Now we have Obama taking spending to a another whole new level. Then to have Obama Bots like you not able to see the trees thru the forest? Wow! Yes, elections have consequences and I sadly believe that America is in for a rude awakening.

  I would have thought that Pat would have corrected your grammar. Isn’t should be is not. LOL Call him names too Pat. lol I know my grammar sucks but I thought that all you libs were above all us low life conservatives.

• 28. hokumboy  |  June 22nd, 2009 at 8:05 pm

  Richard,
  Orlando’s use of “isn’t” was correct.
  And yes, you are right about one thing. Your grammar sucks.

• 29. Richard  |  June 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm

  It is not in my spell check on my computer? You are just so smart. Wow! Now maybe you are even smarter than Orlando. Can you tell me the rate in which the rich are being taxed already? I know that Pat has not touched either. You should know all about those evil Bush tax cuts right?

• 30. Craig Knauss  |  June 22nd, 2009 at 10:37 pm

  “Can you tell me the rate in which the rich are being taxed already? ” Come on, Richard. That’s been covered a zillion times on here already. Were you in a cave? And what’s that got to do with anything? When Reagan was president, he was bitching about the abused rich paying “55 percent” of their earnings in taxes. He never mentioned, even once, that was the rate BEFORE deductions. After deductions, set asides, credits, etc., the average person making more than $250,000 per year paid a whopping 28%. (Source IRS) That was only a couple percent more than I paid after my deductions.

  So Richard, when are you going to start providing the sources for YOUR information? It would improve your credibility.

• 31. Richard  |  June 23rd, 2009 at 12:19 am

  I guess that I was in a cave Craig.
  I just love you Class Warfare pimps. A person who works hard to get ahead in life. Has gone to school, worked to succeed rather than party, saved money living below their means to get ahead in life, they need to pay a higher tax rate than you? Is what you are saying? How do you figure?
  So we can reward those who did not go to school, learn a trade or show good work ethic? They spent their money on party, live beyond their means and save no money. Great logic. I am sure it is people like you who fit that description who create all those great jobs out there.
  Don’t forget the great years of Jimmy Carter during the 70’s either. Remember how great those days were? (70% tax rate IRS ) Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Reagan tax cuts revived the economy. Why? Companies were rewarded for investing resulting in new jobs. People got to keep more of their own money.
  Today we are back to wanting to tax those who have paid their dues, now fearing the repeal the Bush tax cuts. You know those people who create jobs Craig? Upon now fearing raising tax rates, the Cap and Trade Legislation is back on the table with the ObamaBots working hard for socialized medicine. I just see our economy taking off with this. Just a great plan. Bravo.
  If you are going to quote the IRS? Don’t leave out the best part. The bottom 50% of earners who have jobs only pay 3% share of the Federa Income Tax Bill. The reason that tax share is so low, is that Americans in the bottom quintile who have jobs get reimbursed for some or all of their 15 percent payroll tax through the earned-income tax credit (EITC), a fairly efficient poverty-abatement program.
  Boo Hoo Craig. People who create Jobs only pay a few percent than you. According to your way of thinking? You should be able to run over to Concord Commons and land a great job so you can pay that higher tax rate. National Crisis averted. Awesome! I will be racing you over. Will you be creating any new jobs in the near future Craig? That I really doubt.

• 32. David Barrett  |  June 23rd, 2009 at 6:46 am

  Richard,
  Let me get this straight. You complain about how high the tax rate is for upper income taxpayers. Craig points out that because of the way the tax code is written the rich end up only paying a slightly higher rate than the middle class. Your response is to claim they should pay the same rate as the middle class. The intellectual dishonesty of the shifting goal posts is striking, but even more amazing is your apparent belief that you are winning converts to your side of the isle by arguing against the concept of the graduated income tax — an accepted aspect of our tax code for over 100 years.
  I would like to suggest to any readers of these comments who are still open to being persuaded whether to vote Democrat or Republican in future elections that if you accept Mike and Richard as spokespersons for the right and Republicanism then that side has shown itself to be devoid of intellectual integrity, fresh ideas and competence.

• 33. Richard  |  June 23rd, 2009 at 8:46 am

  David, I do not believe that the Top earners can not pay a higher rate but when does fair end and class warfare take over? There has to be a balance.

• 34. Dave Barrett  |  June 23rd, 2009 at 11:08 am

  Richard,
  What!?!? It’s useless to try to debate with you. You change what you are arguing for in every comment. How can you hope to persuade anyone of anything when you don’t even know what your position is?

• 35. Richard  |  June 23rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm

  No topic change there. I believe in a graduated income tax as long as it is fair. You can not punish people for success. Craig is upset that people who are in a tax bracket above him only pay a few tax percent more than him. So what.
  Lets take a guy who runs a small business. He makes a 175,000 a year. If he was to expand his business by adding employees to take on a larger work load. As a result his income rockets to 280,000. If you libs get your way and raise his tax bracket back to the good ol days of 70 percent? What becomes of his net? It becomes less than what he was making. So tell me why he would create those jobs?He like punishment? He would be better off before his expansions. Small business being the largest employer in the world, who gets hurt by this? Us as a country. Less tax dollars and fewer jobs. Great idea to kill it, huh?
  How did I change topic? I know the topic , do you? Did I not say on topic again? I can add insults later if that was what you were referring too.

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