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	<title>Comments on: Hypocritical Bushies whine about arrangements for Obama&#8217;s town hall meeting</title>
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	<description>Pat Cunningham offers an unabashedly liberal perspective on national politics. A note of caution: The language gets a litttle salty on some of the sites to which this blog links. So, don't say you weren't warned. By the way, this blog's name is inspired by the Will Rogers quote, "All politics is applesauce."</description>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2009/07/02/hypocritical-bushies-whine-about-arrangements-for-obamas-town-hall-meeting/#comment-17354</link>
		<author>Henry</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post #18 should read 'woman' not 'women'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post #18 should read &#8216;woman&#8217; not &#8216;women&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2009/07/02/hypocritical-bushies-whine-about-arrangements-for-obamas-town-hall-meeting/#comment-17353</link>
		<author>Henry</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - 

Pat probably has, but it was with a women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike - </p>
<p>Pat probably has, but it was with a women.</p>
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		<title>By: David Barrett</title>
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		<author>David Barrett</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy,
   Pat certainly has read of research that supports what he said about some men who say emphatically anti-homosexual things being latent homosexuals.  I have read the same research.  Mike's statements cause me to wonder the same thing.  If Mike's statements are aimed at aspects of himself he is doing himself damage by remaining in the closet.  He needs to stop being at war with himself and come out of the closet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy,<br />
   Pat certainly has read of research that supports what he said about some men who say emphatically anti-homosexual things being latent homosexuals.  I have read the same research.  Mike&#8217;s statements cause me to wonder the same thing.  If Mike&#8217;s statements are aimed at aspects of himself he is doing himself damage by remaining in the closet.  He needs to stop being at war with himself and come out of the closet.</p>
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		<title>By: Billybeermonicagar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2009/07/02/hypocritical-bushies-whine-about-arrangements-for-obamas-town-hall-meeting/#comment-17350</link>
		<author>Billybeermonicagar</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike,  That's Pats stealth way of calling you a homo.  It's ok when he does it that way.  I'm sure he has research to prove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike,  That&#8217;s Pats stealth way of calling you a homo.  It&#8217;s ok when he does it that way.  I&#8217;m sure he has research to prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2009/07/02/hypocritical-bushies-whine-about-arrangements-for-obamas-town-hall-meeting/#comment-17339</link>
		<author>Pat Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I've said here before, Mike reminds me of the psychological research indicating that some vehemently homophobic men are worried or confused about their own sexuality and are inclined to make a show of distaste for homosexuality so that others won’t have suspicions about them. Is this you, Mike ? There’s nothing wrong with having such feelings. Only the cretins are going to laugh at you if you come out. The rest of us won’t. Be yourself, Mike. It’s all right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve said here before, Mike reminds me of the psychological research indicating that some vehemently homophobic men are worried or confused about their own sexuality and are inclined to make a show of distaste for homosexuality so that others won’t have suspicions about them. Is this you, Mike ? There’s nothing wrong with having such feelings. Only the cretins are going to laugh at you if you come out. The rest of us won’t. Be yourself, Mike. It’s all right.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2009/07/02/hypocritical-bushies-whine-about-arrangements-for-obamas-town-hall-meeting/#comment-17338</link>
		<author>joe</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of christian would be charged with a hate crime?

"One who is following his faith and stuck in a country that keeps passing laws promoting murder and immorality."

I guess we have read a different bible.

I Jn 4:20  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: 
        for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he 
        love God whom he hath not seen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of christian would be charged with a hate crime?</p>
<p>&#8220;One who is following his faith and stuck in a country that keeps passing laws promoting murder and immorality.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess we have read a different bible.</p>
<p>I Jn 4:20  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar:<br />
        for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he<br />
        love God whom he hath not seen?</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2009/07/02/hypocritical-bushies-whine-about-arrangements-for-obamas-town-hall-meeting/#comment-17336</link>
		<author>joe</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The press PURPOSELY left out that these people were queer to advance this ridiculous agenda that is sweeping the nation."

You needed the press to tell you the guy sleeping with a boy is gay? I don't. Somethings are a obvious. 

"Tell me Joe, is it a hate crime when some sicko judge denegrates a beauty contestant over her opinions that he asked her."

I'm assuming we are talking about perez hilton here? I wouldn't call it a hate crime, but it was wrong not to respect her opinion. He then took it to far on his blog. If you want to hate on Perez I would look at how he can get away with calling someone a faggot.

"Is it a hate crime when a gang of queers start roughing up an old woman when she is demonstrating peacefully against fag marriage?"

I would say yes. 


"What is a hate crime Joe??? A crime is a crime isn’t it? I’ll tell you what one is….it’s something that will impose a harsher sentence on a white male or a Christian. That’s all a hate crime is."

You really think the white guys has it that bad? It really upsets you that you can't punch someone and call then a fag at the same time? Come on. I'm also blown away that you think laws against hate crimes are laws aimed at christians. What kind of christian would be charged with a hate crime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The press PURPOSELY left out that these people were queer to advance this ridiculous agenda that is sweeping the nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>You needed the press to tell you the guy sleeping with a boy is gay? I don&#8217;t. Somethings are a obvious. </p>
<p>&#8220;Tell me Joe, is it a hate crime when some sicko judge denegrates a beauty contestant over her opinions that he asked her.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming we are talking about perez hilton here? I wouldn&#8217;t call it a hate crime, but it was wrong not to respect her opinion. He then took it to far on his blog. If you want to hate on Perez I would look at how he can get away with calling someone a faggot.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is it a hate crime when a gang of queers start roughing up an old woman when she is demonstrating peacefully against fag marriage?&#8221;</p>
<p>I would say yes. </p>
<p>&#8220;What is a hate crime Joe??? A crime is a crime isn’t it? I’ll tell you what one is….it’s something that will impose a harsher sentence on a white male or a Christian. That’s all a hate crime is.&#8221;</p>
<p>You really think the white guys has it that bad? It really upsets you that you can&#8217;t punch someone and call then a fag at the same time? Come on. I&#8217;m also blown away that you think laws against hate crimes are laws aimed at christians. What kind of christian would be charged with a hate crime?</p>
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		<title>By: snuss</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2009/07/02/hypocritical-bushies-whine-about-arrangements-for-obamas-town-hall-meeting/#comment-17335</link>
		<author>snuss</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Orlando conveniently ignored, Obama had not just "selected" audiences, but planted partisan "journalists", with specific, prearranged, questions. But, I expect no better from a confirmed Obamaniac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Orlando conveniently ignored, Obama had not just &#8220;selected&#8221; audiences, but planted partisan &#8220;journalists&#8221;, with specific, prearranged, questions. But, I expect no better from a confirmed Obamaniac.</p>
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		<title>By: Orlando Clay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2009/07/02/hypocritical-bushies-whine-about-arrangements-for-obamas-town-hall-meeting/#comment-17331</link>
		<author>Orlando Clay</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>snuss wrote: "Obama has taken his press hypocrisy to a new level....."

Sorry, snuss.  In this case, President Obama comes nowhere near matching Bush administration efforts to "stack the deck."

From Media Matters:
"On July 3, FoxNation.com features the headline "Obama Busted Stacking Town Hall ... What If Bush Had?" But the suggestion that Bush did not screen town hall audiences or questions was refuted by Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace, who said on the July 3 edition of Fox &#38; Friends that "town hall meetings ... have always been something of an artifice, because I know in the Bush administration, George W. Bush, they had a lot of these town hall meetings, and they chose all the people there. So everybody has always tried to get a home-court advantage." Indeed, a March 12, 2005, Washington Post article on Bush's 2005 Social Security town hall events reported, "The carefully screened panelists [at a town hall in Memphis] spoke admiringly about Bush, his ideas, his 'bold' leadership on Social Security. If the presentations sound well rehearsed, it's because they often are. The guests at these 'Oprah'-style conversations trumpet the very points Bush wants to make.""

Not to mention the ridiculous Bush loyalty pledge cards that attendees had to sign.  Or the "Free Speech Zones" where anti-Bush protesters were kept, often miles away from the event itself.

Nice try, snuss.  Better luck next time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>snuss wrote: &#8220;Obama has taken his press hypocrisy to a new level&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, snuss.  In this case, President Obama comes nowhere near matching Bush administration efforts to &#8220;stack the deck.&#8221;</p>
<p>From Media Matters:<br />
&#8220;On July 3, FoxNation.com features the headline &#8220;Obama Busted Stacking Town Hall &#8230; What If Bush Had?&#8221; But the suggestion that Bush did not screen town hall audiences or questions was refuted by Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace, who said on the July 3 edition of Fox &amp; Friends that &#8220;town hall meetings &#8230; have always been something of an artifice, because I know in the Bush administration, George W. Bush, they had a lot of these town hall meetings, and they chose all the people there. So everybody has always tried to get a home-court advantage.&#8221; Indeed, a March 12, 2005, Washington Post article on Bush&#8217;s 2005 Social Security town hall events reported, &#8220;The carefully screened panelists [at a town hall in Memphis] spoke admiringly about Bush, his ideas, his &#8216;bold&#8217; leadership on Social Security. If the presentations sound well rehearsed, it&#8217;s because they often are. The guests at these &#8216;Oprah&#8217;-style conversations trumpet the very points Bush wants to make.&#8221;"</p>
<p>Not to mention the ridiculous Bush loyalty pledge cards that attendees had to sign.  Or the &#8220;Free Speech Zones&#8221; where anti-Bush protesters were kept, often miles away from the event itself.</p>
<p>Nice try, snuss.  Better luck next time!</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<author>joe</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Ahhh but it does have to do with politics because homosexuality is getting crammed down everyones throat with gay marriage laws and hate crimes bills."

What does the story you linked to have to do with gay marriage or hate crimes? Did allowing this guy to marry another man turn him into a child molester? Would the kid of not been molested if we didn't have laws against hate crimes? I would love to know how you feel these issues are related to this kid being molested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ahhh but it does have to do with politics because homosexuality is getting crammed down everyones throat with gay marriage laws and hate crimes bills.&#8221;</p>
<p>What does the story you linked to have to do with gay marriage or hate crimes? Did allowing this guy to marry another man turn him into a child molester? Would the kid of not been molested if we didn&#8217;t have laws against hate crimes? I would love to know how you feel these issues are related to this kid being molested.</p>
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