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Does America have best health care in world? Huge majority of Americans don’t think so

October 14th, 2009 at 12:36pm Pat Cunningham

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 A Pew Research Center poll SHOWS that only 15 percent of Americans consider their country’s health-care system the best in the world.

 Conservative Republican respondents were the most likely to rate the American system as the best or above average. But then, this group also is more likely to include Birthers, Deathers, Tenthers and other oddballs.

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  • 1. Neftali  |  October 14th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Well…according the famed World Health Organization poll from 2000, The United States ranked first in responsiveness to patients’ needs for choice of provider, dignity, autonomy, timely care, and confidentiality. In other words, where it matters most to patients, the U.S. system excels.

    http://www.cchconline.org/publications/whoart.php3

  • 2. Neftali  |  October 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    But hey, perhaps we should be more like Canada. This video does a good job of showing where our future is headed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPFK6aLJec8&feature=player_embedded#

    While the liberals may be able to get a few thousand people health insurance that didn’t previously have it…..the horrible reality is that health insurance will be worse for rest of the 200M+ that already has it.

  • 3. Pat Cunningham  |  October 14th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Neftali: Your video is just anecdotal crapola. A poll conducted this past summer shows that 82 percent of Canadians think their system is superior to ours:

    http://www.nowpublic.com/health/canadians-favour-their-health-care-u-s-system-poll

  • 4. Pat Cunningham  |  October 14th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    Richard: What the hell are you talking about? Most of your comments make very little sense, but this one makes none.

  • 5. Orlando Clay  |  October 14th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Richard blathers; “We by far have the best Health Care in the world.”

    Amazing. Only within the Glenn Beck School of Mathematics at the Fox University of of Right-Wing Lies and Propaganda does #37 = #1.

    Twit.

  • 6. Neftali  |  October 14th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    Juice - You kind of answered your own question. Liberals feel health care in a fundamental right, i.e. entitlement. Of course, that really isn’t so bad. The real problem is that liberals also think that if the private marketplace isn’t doing the job correctly, then government should create its own enterprise to allegedly compete in the marketplace. That is where their thinking is severely flawed.

    The real solution is to provide the tools, i.e. laws, that makes private marketplace operate as they feel it should. You would think they would learn from the housing crises that GSE’s generally suck. But I guess that’s asking too much for the liberals to learn from history.

  • 7. Neftali  |  October 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    blah…should be “is” a fundamental right.

  • 8. Art  |  October 14th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    “But hey, perhaps we should be more like Canada. This video does a good job of showing where our future is headed.”

    I saw a letter to the editor to the Beloit Daily Mistake today about taxes on tobacco and beer. The writer states that cigarettes run close to $13 a pack there and beer $40 a case. I do not know if these are accurate figure. I have no problem with governemnt paid insurance if they tax tobacco, alcohol, and sugary, high fat foods to pay for it.

    http://www.beloitdailynews.com/articles/2009/10/14/opinion/letters/let1402.txt

  • 9. Henry  |  October 14th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Juice - what about those who are not offered insurance where they work, or cannot afford the premiums, or are refused coverage because of prexisting conditions?

  • 10. NurseGloria  |  October 15th, 2009 at 2:53 am

    “blah…should be “is” a fundamental right.” Neftali: Why do people correct someone for a typo when you know what they mean?

    For some reason, the text in my comment box is very light and hard to read before it appears as text on this site when it is darker and easier to read. Then I see my spelling errors and typos.

    As for whether we have the best healthcare in the world, it probably depends where you live and your socio-economic status. If you have never been ill or if you are Dick Cheney, you would think we have the best healthcare in the world.

    Others who may think so are VIPs and members of Congress who don’t listen to their constituents.

  • 11. realfoxnews  |  October 15th, 2009 at 5:36 am

    Art In Wis. Cigs are about $7.00 a pack and beer is pretty cheap miller 24 pack $14.99 a case in places. But if we don’t get this Dem Gov out of Office that’s what we will be paying with in a few years.

  • 12. expdoc  |  October 15th, 2009 at 8:39 am

    No one has pointed out that this poll is worthless. How many of the respondents have any experience with any system other than this one? Their experience is based on what the media tells them and maybe Moore’s pseudodocumentary.

    Here is an article that will show you all how the current Baucus proposal is nothing more than a huge tax hike on the middle class. Something Obama has vowed not to do.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107204574471292249934348.html

    Why does it make sense to double down on the kinds of entitlements already in crisis, instead of passing medical malpractice reform and allowing greater competition among insurers? Why should middle-class families pay more than $2,000 on average, by my estimate, in taxes in the process?

    Middle-class families have it tough enough. There is little reason to believe that the pain of the current recession, housing downturn, and financial crisis will quickly fade away—especially with the administration planning to triple the national debt over the next decade.

    The promise of real reform remains. But the reality of the Democrats’ current effort is starkly less benign. It will create a dangerous new entitlement that will be paid for by the middle class and their children.

  • 13. Henry  |  October 15th, 2009 at 8:58 am

    Juice -
    The devil is in the details. How would the government provide a ’structure’? Are you saying the government would pool those who are uninsured and then shop the group to insurance companies for the best rates? If that is the scenario, it won’t work because that group will be a much higher risk for the insurance companies because of the number of people with pre-existing conditions. Higher income folks could afford the rates, but middle and lower income folks aren’t going to be able to swing it. For the ’structured’ group to compare favorably to those with private insurance, there would have to be a requirement for everyone to have insurance, which would bring in younger, healthier people who want to opt out of insurance. That brings up the issue of mandating health insurance, which conservatives are opposed to. I don’t see 80 votes, because to make this work, there are some things that the conservatives can’t stomach. It’s going to be along party lines, and whatever gets passed isn’t going to help the situation much at all.

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