Some libs think it’s foolish for Obama team to attack Fox News, but some don’t
October 26th, 2009 at 06:11pm Pat Cunningham
Lots of liberals, including several of my friends, have looked askance at the Obama administration’s willingness to wage war against Fox News.
But I’m inclined to think it’s a shrewd strategy that will pay dividends in the long run. And I’m not alone in that regard, as we see HERE.
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1. Roger | October 26th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
I think it will backfire on them.
It also makes him look like a cry baby.
So Pat I guess your for the ‘Fairness Doctrine’ too!!
2. Juice | October 26th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
It’s easier to attack the messenger than confront the facts. Truth hurts and they are whining. Sit down for an hour with Sean Hannity if you have a pair, Obama. Defend your Marxist, welfare agenda. Never happen, fried chicken little.
3. expdoc | October 26th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
“If the White House could persuade moderates that any story originating with Fox is politically motivated and hence suspect, it might reduce the initial impact of Fox-generated content,” she says. “What the White House appears to be trying to do is reduce the migration of stories from Fox to other cable, broadcast, and print.”
Except that Fox has broken valid and significant stories. I read that quote as : What the White House appears to be trying to do is supress the truth”.
Must be Halloween, because that is scary:(
4. Mike Carroll | October 26th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
You disappoint me Pat. I would have assumed that a journalist with a sense of ethics (I may be in the land of oxymoron here) would be appalled by the conduct of an administration that is mirroring what the Nixon White House tried to do.
Guess not.
5. Pat Cunningham | October 26th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Mike Carroll: You disappoint me. I would have assumed that someone like you could recognize that there’s been no lapse of ethics in the Obama administration’s dissing of Fox News. (And don’t give me that phony story about Fox being barred from some interview with some czar. That’s been debunked all over the place).
Besides, it isn’t like Obama is siccing the IRS on the folks at Fox. That’s the kind of thing Nixon resorted to.
My God, man. Fox has thrown every kind of garbage imaginable at Obama, and you right-wingers get upset when he dares to even slightly fight back. Oh, stop him! He’s acting like a Chicago thug! He’s trampling the First Amendment! Oh, the shame of it all!
Don’t be a weenie, Mike. As a wise Chicago pol once said: Politics ain’t beanbag.
6. Pat Cunningham | October 26th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Mike Carroll: For more on the interview from which Fox purportedly was excluded, check this”
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/wh-were-happy-to-exclude-fox-but-didnt-yesterday-with-feinberg-interview.php
And this:
http://undeniableliberalism.blogspot.com/2009/10/did-fox-nooze-lie-about-wh-being.html
And ESPECIALLY this:
http://www.mediaite.com/columnists/foxs-white-house-bans-fox-news-story-completely-unravels/
7. mike | October 26th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Wise Chicago pol? There has not been one in the history of the United States……only gangsters.
New Gallup poll Conservative America 40 %
Moderate America 36 %
LIBERAL America 20 %
Kooks are shrinking! Mmm Mmm Mmm Barack aint so hot yo mama
Mmm Mmm Mmm
8. Pat Cunningham | October 26th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
mike: Aren’t you supposed be out somewhere trying to organize a military coup against the government. Or are you still on the lam from the feds for your advocacy of such actions?
9. mike | October 26th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
I told you I was in D.C. at the Pentagon. YOU are being watched! Don’t you believe me?
10. Pat Cunningham | October 26th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
mike: I’m not the one who’s hiding. I put my real name on my opinions. You don’t.
11. echo4charlie | October 26th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Personally, I think that President Obama would do himself more good to just keep moving forward, aside from what any news source throws at him. They did all of this to President Bush, too.
You know what? In my opinion, he needs to put on the face that it doesn’t matter (and if it does matter to him, deal with it in private). If what gets thrown is true, it will stick, and he’ll need to answer for it, but if it is false, like this latest “thesis”, it will slide off, slither away, and disappear.
Like I said a hundred times before. He’s the President, whether any of us voted for him, or no. We need to respect that. I am just sickened by the viciousness of the media attacks (just as I was with President Bush).
These attack dog media outlets (and it isn’t just Fox News) need to be put in their place, but not by the President, his administration, or members of congress.
The American people are the ones who need to put these outlets in their place.
12. xangman | October 26th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Well, why don’t those who believe in and support a socialist and centralized government do their own radio and TV shows? That should be easy enough.
Those who voted for a socialist President, viz. Obama, should be very pleased to support sponsors of such programming.
Why is Obama continuing his whine about programs which he doesn’t like? Mr. Prez - you’re the man by popular demand.
13. snuss | October 26th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
xangman sez: “Well, why don’t those who believe in and support a socialist and centralized government do their own radio and TV shows?”
Answer: They already do. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, etc. were so one-sided in their support of Obama, that even Saturday Night Live parodied it frequently. ABC did am ObamaCare “infomercial’ live, from the White House. Chris Mathews got a “tingle up his leg” everytime Obama spoke. If it weren’t for Fox News, this country would resemble Venezuela.
14. Mike Carroll | October 27th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Pat-you would be singing a totally different tune if W had decided to do the same with, say, CBS. You remember Dan Rather and his point of view? One suspects there would have been an epic outcry from liberals and the MSM (yes, I know, I’m repeating myself) if he had tried. I should know by this point in my life that expecting consistency from liberals is the modern equivalent of carrying coal to Newcastle. However, I reserve the right to call you on your hypocrisy.
15. Roger | October 27th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Pat says -My God, man. Fox has thrown every kind of garbage imaginable at Obama, and you right-wingers get upset when he dares to even slightly fight back. Oh, stop him! He’s acting like a Chicago thug! He’s trampling the First Amendment! Oh, the shame of it all!
MSNBC did the same exact thing to Bush. Your hero KO did it every night.
Bush didn’t cry about them.
I still think it will backfire and make Obama and company look like a bunch of thin skinned cry babies.
16. Pat Cunningham | October 27th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Mike Carroll: If you’re going to hold up the administration of George W. Bush as a model of rectitude in its dealings with the news media, you’re either hopelessly misinformed or hopelessly forgetful.
You’re talking about an administration that, as blogger John Cole reminds us:
– Paid Armstrong Williams, Michael McManus, and Maggie Gallagher and others for favorable opinions about White House policies or to attack opponents of the administation;
– Planted Jeff Gannon, a pseudo-reporter, at White House briefings to lob softball questions;
– Used reporters to out a CIA agent, then sat by and watched reporters go to jail to protect their sources;
– Fed reporters misinformation about WMD in Iraq, then used those reporters stories as corroborating evidence of the existence of WMD in Iraq;
– Treated Helen Thomas like a leper;
– Waged a coordinated campaign against NBC;
– Barred New York Times reporters from its planes;
– Cooked up the Pentagon Pundit program, which sold the war by secretly planting former military officers on networks as so-called independent consultants. (The uncovering of this scheme earned a journalist a Pulitzer Prize);
– Staged mock press conferences with FEMA employees pretending to be reporters.
Michael, tell me you don’t remember any of that stuff. Oh, and tell me again how unethical it is of the Obama administration to label Fox News as the propaganda arm of the Republican Party.
Tell me about “fair and balanced,” Michael.
17. realfoxnews | October 27th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Hey Pat if your not hiding then why is your number unlisted for? Then Pat I should post your address so everybody could come over and trick and treat at your house, but we will be doing the tricking.
But to the real thing didn’t BOBO kick somebody off his plane also last year?
18. QuentinK | October 27th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Juice said: “Sit down for an hour with Sean Hannity if you have a pair, Obama.”
Why? Nowhere in the real world is Hannity considered a journalist outside the fairy tale pages of FOX news. Why should this moron be validated just because they gave him a show. FOX news stated mission is too shift things in their very opinionated direction. Why would Obama go along with that? Why waste his time? Letterman is more of a viable journalist than Hannity.
Oh and Mike? Your numbers show that Obama won almost ALL the moderate votes (like me) with a SMALLER portion of liberal votes. That means by your own math that Obama IS the moderate. Your numbers also prove that it is the conservatives that are way off center and NOT the liberal-moderates that now have power. Truth in math.
19. QuentinK | October 27th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Wow realfoxnews. Your post is an actual threat, You could be brought up on charges for that.
20. Pat Cunningham | October 27th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Quentin: Pay no mind to realfoxnews. He’s as harmless as he is witless.
21. echo4charlie | October 27th, 2009 at 9:47 am
After reading realfoxnews’ post, I think the answer is clear as to why Pat would not want to list his phone number. And giving up Pat’s address? Why? What the hell does it matter where he lives?
We all disagree in here. That’s the fun of this blog. It’s “spirited” discussion.
Threats like that have no place here.
22. Mike Carroll | October 27th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Pat-your post at #16 above is truly scary. You seem to have descended into the liberal blogosphere swamp where half truths and innuendo morph into fact.
I fully expect pettiness, hypocrisy and arrogance from a liberal administration. I don’t expect stupid.
BTW, Helen Thomas should be treated like a leper. She stopped being a journalist decades ago. That is what happens when you sell out.
23. richard | October 27th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Mr. Carroll……..I like what you are saying so much that I have just been sitting on the sidelines applauding you….. EXCELENT!!
Way to clear the air Mike.
24. QuentinK | October 27th, 2009 at 10:33 am
On halloween I want to have a really scary night so I’m going to make some popcorn, turn off all the lights, turn ON FOX news and pretend their way of looking at things is REALLY the truth. OOOhhhh that will be scary, scary, scary.
Death squads killing grandma, terrorists at every mosque, illegal aliens swimming across the border every minute to steal the food from my children’s mouths. The white house over run by socialist, fascist terrorists, forced flu shots, nation-wide police state, constitution burnings, atheists on the payroll, etc, etc, etc.
AAAAHHHHH run for the hills!
25. expdoc | October 27th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Speaking of scary, it scares the heck out of me when Pravda is reporting on the shift of the US away from capitalism and towards socialism.
http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/19-10-2009/109973-socialism-0
If everyone had these values, the “dog-eat-dog” principal would be the major principal in the world history. But America failed to do it. There are plenty of “underdeveloped” people in the world who continue to cherish spiritual values. There are not that many chances left to force them into worshiping money since these “underdeveloped” people adopt western technology and become stronger. The appeal to adopt American values doesn’t work either. Why would we adopt the system if the system is in crisis? Pragmatic America realized that billions of people are not willing to live in the kingdom of hard cash and decided that it would be better off leaving this kingdom itself. Now the USA is talking about introducing elements of socialism.
26. realfoxnews | October 27th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Quentink you need to show me how that’s a threat. Any body could get any body’s address or phone number even if its unlisted. I don’t give a dame were Pat lives in Rockford, I don’t EVEN come to ILL to see my mother. That State is bad news But go AQUIN BULLDOGS
27. QuentinK | October 27th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
realfoxnews——
The threat comes when you say you’re going to do his house for trick or treat but ONLY to “do the tricking.” It implies that you are meaning harm in a premeditated manner.
But if you change you change your mind on the femme fatale, let me know. They’re my absolute favorite.
28. realfoxnews | October 27th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
If that’s the case the FBI needs be called in. Have this site shut down until they go threw all the blogs. Give it up quack. You should go threw and see how many times Pat has threaten somebody on his blog.
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