Posted by Pat Cunningham on Aug 31, 2010 in Uncategorized | 26 comments
Is THIS incredible or what?
And they are still using information from discredited “luggage lifter”George Rekers-whom they dis-avowed.
Bullying someone is wrong, regardless, and we should be kind to each other as the Bible says, but at the same time, we should be able to speak out against sin. The Bible condemns homosexuality, or even living together unmarried as so many do these days. The Bible says men shouldn’t lie with animals either, but since you think its ok for homosexuality, you probably think its ok to have relations with animals, as I read several years ago of a guy doing with a horse in his field.
Doesn’t the bible say you should kill your child if they talk back to you too? Guess my parents didn’t apply the correct discipline as Im still alive.
Where does it say you kill your child if he talks back? And sin is sin, and we should be able to speak out against it.
Here you go…
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death.–Leviticus 20:9
We now live under the New Testament, which still speaks against homosexuality and lying with beasts.
We live under the constitution of the United States. Some of us live under the code of conduct of religion but this is not an obligation in the US — it’s a choice, a right, not a mandatory practice.
@camper: Now you tell me. Those pesky Ten Commandments (you know, the ones from the Old Testament) were really starting to become a hurdle. If we had only known that the New Testament is the only part that counts, we could have saved a lot of money on court cases over the displaying of the Ten Commandments in publicly owned buildings.
Not to mention how much headache we could have saved if we could have just told Creationists that they’re using outdated material.
The only “Gay Agenda” I’ve heard of is equal rights. Why are some of you so scared of that. Ask anybody who is in a state were gays can marry, (Iowa, it’s pretty close, everyone knows someone in Iowa) how their life has changed since gays could marry. If it is such a problem I’m sure people against gay rights would have them on T.V. giving testimonials .
Once again, if you don’t like homosexuality don’t be one.
We don’t live in a land under the Biblical laws. You guys want to scare everyone into thinking that Obama wants to impose Sharia. Have you ever thought it’s you guys that are the real religious zealots? Here’s what happens when we decide to make everyone live by sex codes and penalties of the Bible –
Unfortunatel this was the product of a conference led by anti-homosexual Christians from the U.S.
People don’t have to live under your or anyone else’s verion of the Christian religion im the U.S. It took me a long time to figure that out too, I sympathize, but it’s true and good for everyone.
Russ, I was off line after my last message yesterday, but thanks for standing up for what is right. God created man and women for each other, not woman for woman, man for man, but I cling to what the Bible says, and know I have a place in Heaven when this life is over. What do those who don’t believe in God, and His grace have to look forward to?
The Bible is clear about sin, and you are correct, we all have sin in our lives, but with God’s grace, if we turn our lives over to Him, He will forgive, but we cannot continue to live in that sin. Since homosexuality is condemned by God, then they must turn from it, just as anyone living in adultery must turn away. If a person murders someone, God will forgive, but you can’t go on killing. God will forgive, but if we continue in the sin, we lose out.
The US has two foundational documents the Declaration of Independence and, the US Constitution. The Bible is not a foundational document (you might believe it is but, you would be wrong.) The US is governed by civil/secular laws. If you don’t like it, please leave. (“The USA, love it or leave it!”) Now, you bible thumpers might want to live your lives by your biblical code, but leave the rest of us alone and obey the law!
Has anyone else noticed that gay bashers typically spend more time than anyone else thinking about public displays of affection between homosexuals? Hmm…
whitelie: I deleted your comment about a certain somebody getting the boot. Stay out of it. I mean, stay out of it!
The Treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John Adams in 1797, says this:
“As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”
Moreover, if the Founding Fathers had aimed to found a Christian republic, it would seem highly unlikely that they would have forgotten to leave out their Christian intentions in the Supreme law of the land. In fact, nowhere in the Constitution do we have a single mention of Christianity, God, Jesus, or any Supreme Being. There occurs only two references to religion and they both use exclusionary wording. The 1st Amendment’s says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. . .” and in Article VI, Section 3, “. . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”
For more on these and other matters, check this:
Russ: What a brilliant response! Of course it “means nothing” to you. After all, you’ve already established that First Amendment guarantees of Freedom of Religion mean nothing to you, especially as they apply to Muslims.
Russ: My point was that gay bashers spend more time thinking about homosexual expressions of love than even homosexuals do. Why is that?
Oh no!! The big bad MAINSTREAM MEDIA is here! There’s no escape! We can’t turn it off, and we can’t ignore it! What will we do!?!?
IT makes us believe things we don’t want to! We don’t have a choice! IT shows us things we don’t want to see! I can’t possibly make up my own mind about things — please Glenn Beck and Keith Olberman — tell me what to believe in!!! Let me use your opinions to form mine!!!
When will it end?!? The gays!! The Muslims! The EMMYS!!!!
Facts, research, and your own mind; try using them some time.
Russ: I have just deleted your most recent homophobic rant because of its filthy language, and I am seriously considering throwing you out of here. Any more such stuff and you’re gone. Any argument from you about this and you’re gone. Understand?
Furthermore, anybody else who gives me an argument about how I’m
treating you also will be gone. I don’t like your disgusting bigotry, and I don’t like anyone who would support it. And don’t give me any crap about your freedom of speech. This is my blog, and I decide what gets published here and what doesn’t. You still have freedom to express your hateful sentiments however you want, but not here.
Perhaps you’d feel more at home at some wingnut Web site where homophobes and religious bigots like you are welcome.
Russ: If your argument is that you spend hours of your life thinking about man-on-man lovin’ because it’s all you see from the mainstream media, then how do you explain the multitudes of other people who also take in the mainstream media but DON’T spend hours of their lives thinking about it?
Or even, if your argument is that you spend hours of your life thinking about man-on-man lovin’ because it’s all you see from the mainstream media, then why don’t you change the channel/turn off the movie? I mean, I don’t like seeing cruelty to animals, so whenever I see something on TV or in a movie that depicts cruelty to animals, I turn it off. Subsequently, I also don’t picture cruelty to animals nearly as much as you apparently picture homosexual acts of affection.
Not that my personal experience is proof of anything, but I watch a lot of movies and watch a lot of TV, and I spend approximately 0 hours a day thinking about public displays of homosexual affection. So, I’ve always been curious about why people who think homosexuality is wrong spend so much more time thinking about the details of it.
What I basically said is, when I am watching pro football on t.v., and a commercial promoting a new show comes on. Depicting two males kissing, I don’t want to have to explain to my six year old. What they are doing.
Hey, I don’t want to have to explain to my kid what an abortion is when the jerks with the signs are out, but that’s the kind of thing you have to deal with when you live in a free society.
People act like there’s some clause in the constitution that says “you have the right to never be offended.”
Rusty, Rusty, Rusty…
You can shuck and jive all you want, but you’re not going to cloud the actual issue.
I didn’t “liken” homosexual activity to cruelty to animals. I “likened” my aversion to animal cruelty to your aversion to homosexual behavior.
Now that we have that settled, can you explain why you spend so much more time than other people thinking about two men kissing? I’ll bet dollars to donuts that you don’t spend more time interacting with “mainstream media” than I do. So, how can the same stimuli have such varying effects on two parties?
Russ: I really have no clue what your first statement is supposed to refute (excuse me, I meant “repudiate”).
But I am not trying to paint you as anything. I’m simply asking why you think it is that you spend so much more time thinking about two men kissing. If you think that makes you a “homo,” then I guess you have something to talk to your wife about. But don’t pin that on me. You made that conclusion on your own.
And thank you for your support. I’ll keep up my good work, and you keep up the good work on your Klan rallies.
Jim Yeager: Sarah Palin’s made-up word is “refudiate,” which, I guess, is some kind of hybrid of “refute” and “repudiate,” the definitions of which are not really very similar. “Refute” means to disprove; “repudiate” means to disavow, recant or retract.
One might say that even when I refute the crap Russ peddles here, he stubbornly refuses to repudiate it. Or as Palin might put it, he refusiates.
Pat: You’re right. That’s what I get for not proofreading before I hit “Submit.”
I guess I was just so stunned to find out that Russ apparently knows what will offend the gay community.
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