Marco Rubio, possible GOP veep candidate, says Medicare and Social Security have made America weaker

U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio (above), the Florida Republican, is peddling social Darwinism when he says:

These programs [Social Security and Medicare] actually weakened us as a people. You see, almost forever, it was institutions in society that assumed the role of taking care of one another. If someone was sick in your family, you took care of them. If a neighbor met misfortune, you took care of them. You saved for your retirement and your future because you had to. We took these things upon ourselves in our communities, our families, and our homes, and our churches and our synagogues. But all that changed when the government began to assume those responsibilities. All of a sudden, for an increasing number of people in our nation, it was no longer necessary to worry about saving for security because that was the government’s job.

But, of course, Rubio is talking nonsense, as we see HERE:

Such a big lie Rubio tells. Before Social Security, one in four senior citizens lived in poverty. Now that number is 14 percent.

The Social Security Act also precipitated adoption of far more employer-sponsored pension plans, and the union movement pushed those plans to be competitive and provide retirement security for employees. These are things that didn’t happen before Social Security and Medicare. The same is true of health insurance. Health insurance did not have wide traction as an employee benefit until Medicare was in effect and unions negotiated health benefits for their members. Neither of these things weakened this nation. They strengthened it by keeping senior citizens out of poverty and giving families some breathing room. And of course, those dollars, such as they are, increase the number of consumer dollars available to stimulate the economy.

But perhaps the biggest lie of all is Rubio’s lie about how the churches and synagogues cared for the poor.



  1. http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/128389748.html

    After a complete review . . . I have determined that no criminal charges will be filed against either Justice Bradley or Justice Prosser for the incident on June 13, 2011,” Sauk County District Attorney Patricia Barrett wrote in a fax sent Thursday morning to a Dane County judge.

    Bradley has said Prosser put her in a “chokehold” during a June argument over a case in her chambers. Others have said Bradley came at Prosser with fists raised and he put up his hands to block her or push her back.

  2. doc: Your comment is totally irrelevant to the subject of this post, but since you raised the issue, I have one observation to offer:

    I love the hysterical comments from right-wingers at the end of the article to which you’ve linked. Some of those people belong in a rubber room at the Hotel Silly (if you know what I mean).

    Oh, one other observation: I’ll bet that wimp Prosser is pretty upset that charges haven’t been brought against the big bad woman who tried to beat him up. What a weenie!

  3. doc: One other thought: I’ll bet you’re upset that Justice Bradley wasn’t charged with a crime for attacking Prosser’s hands with her neck.

  4. I am not upset at all, nor am I happy.

    This is just another day, in long string of days, in which the left wing is exposed for the morally bankrupt group that they have become.

  5. doc: There’s absolutely nothing in this decision by a special prosecutor that exposes the left wing as “morally bankrupt.” Where do you get that ridiculous Tea Party rhetoric? I’ll bet you’ve been listening to that Limbaugh wannabe on WTMJ radio. What’s his name? Oh, yeah, Charlie Sykes.

    Why don’t you submit that “morally bankrupt” stuff to the comments thread on that piece to which you linked? You’d fit right in.

  6. Really? Only 8 weeks since the charges and you have forgotten already?

    The vitriol with which Justice Prosser was attacked over this alleged incident was at best a trumped up charge in a grab for political power if not an outright lie.

    This story was reported as if Justice Prosser had all but pulled a knife or a gun on his liberal colleague and it would be just a matter of time until he was tossed in jail. Now, no charges will be filed at all eh? I wonder where Justice Prosser goes to get back his reputation and good name?

    I guess when you’re a liberal, the ends always justify the means.

  7. Cue the violins! One of our Applesauce regulars who has repeatedly called unionists “thugs” suddenly is beside himself with concern for the “reputation and good name” of David Prosser, a Republican judicial hack who once called a Democratic female colleague “a total bitch” and vowed to “destroy” her.

    Granted, it seems that there will be no criminal prosecution of Prosser on allegations that he tried to choke another Democratic female colleague in one of his fits of rage. The decision in that regard has been handed down by an elected Republican officeholder who was appointed special prosecutor in the case. (How convenient!)

    But an investigation of the allegation against Prosser is still pending before the Wisconsin Judicial Commission. Presumably, if that panel besmirches Prosser’s good name, we’ll never hear the end of it from our resident Applesauce union-basher. Oh, the injustice of it all!

  8. You mean the elected Republican official who was given the case after the liberal Dane County DA passed on it after it was passed to him by the elected Democrat sheriff of Dane County?

    Now why do you think the 2 Dem officials from Dane County passed on the chance to charge Prosser and become the hero of the liberal cocktail party circuit in Madison?

    Because the case was crap and even they knew it. Of course they didn’t even have the guts to rule that way officially, instead they passed the buck so they would’t become outcasts in Madison.

  9. By the way, in light of this recent incident he apparently was right when he called her a “total bitch”.

  10. doc: It’s one thing for me or someone else to quote one of your political heroes using that kind of sexist language, but I’m not going to tolerate an endorsement of it from any commenter here. That includes you.

    Don’t let it happen again. And don’t argue me with me about it.

  11. A bit sanctimonious tonight aren’t we?

  12. Mike Carroll: Butt out!

  13. By the way, doc, I love your resentful reference to “the liberal cocktail party circuit in Madison.” It’s so deliciously class-conscious. I’m surprised you didn’t refer to “liberal wine-and-cheese parties,” a favorite disparagement among the right-wing white-bread-and-mayonnaise crowd in keeping with their collective cultural persecution complex.

    Back in my days of writing a daily column, I used to taunt the right-wing rabble with haughty mentions of our wine-and-cheese gatherings where we liberals would snicker at the self-styled real Americans whose hatred of us we found so amusing. I was just kidding, of course, but I think it annoyed the people I wanted to annoy.

    What’s the matter, doc? Don’t you ever get invited to cocktail parties? Don’t you right-wingers ever imbibe at social gatherings? Or is it strictly Kool-Aid as a metaphorical nod to your political gullibility? When I was a kid, most doctors I knew belonged to country clubs and attended cocktail parties all the time. I guess times have changed.

  14. Sorry, I just returned from hitting balls at the club, what was that you were saying oh king of the hypocrites?

    Oh that’s right, something about cocktail parties in Madison. Let me remind you that I have not one, but two degrees from that fine institution the U of W. In fact, I graduated with honors twice. Not only that, but I spent most of my formative years growing up in Madison and rubbing elbows with the liberal intelligentsia and their offspring.

    Aren’t you proud of how I turned out?

    I thought so.

    I do have to thank you for providing this blog, it is like a drug. It is just too much fun to return here time after time and disabuse you of your liberal prejudices and fantasies.

  15. Just as I thought. Doc comes to this blog to feed his own ego. That he is better than the rest of us, because he has been to “college”. This blog fits his persona in that no one, except Mr. C. challenges him, thereby his ego remains intact. He blabbers on day after day, and goes home with a head as big as a Wilson basketball thinking he has outwitted us all.

    Tell me, Doc, did your dad ever tell you, while you were getting all those high-falutin degrees, to have some fun, to drink a few beers, and date a few Democrats, before you settled into the dull life of a Republican egoist?

  16. Doc, will you release your transcripts?

  17. Pat Cunningham: Not Bloody Likely!

  18. Tex,

    You are also a classic. Cunningham attacks me, I respond and I have a big, inflated ego?

    You too should be ashamed for your judgmental and prejudicial ways.

    You’ve never met me, only read snarky posts that I have posted in this snarky play ground.

    My beer drinking ability has never been questioned (particularly in my youth). In fact, there is a beer consumption requirement prior to receiving any degree at the University of Wisconsin and I passed with flying colors if I do say myself.

    As far as dating Democrats, how could I not have done so after spending 8 years on campus in Madison?

    And yes Wilson, I would be happy to release my transcripts.

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