Self-identified ex-cop speaks out on Trayvon Martin case

Earlier this morning, in the comments thread on a previous post, a person identified only as “2227” and representing him- or herself as a former police officer offered a few interesting observations regarding the Trayvon Martin case.

I don’t know if this person is actually an ex-cop, but I think what he (or she) said merits stand-alone treatment.

The following has been edited to eliminate a few unnecessary capitalizations, correct a few mispunctuations and misspellings and break up the submission into paragraphs to make it more readable.

As a former police officer myself, so far I am shocked at some of the beliefs about how things should be handled.

When a neighborhood organizes a watch system, it is to keep an eye out for suspicious activities. If you observe anything that alarms you, notify your police department and keep your eye on as much of what is happening until the police arrive.

If you have been advised to not approach the subject, but you do, you then become an aggressive participant in an unknown matter. Your level of training may not be vast enough to prepare you for unknown events. You certainly are not in a situation that requires immediate action. You are in a safe position to watch and wait for assistance. Unless you are trying to stop great bodily harm to yourself or others, you have time and distance to choose differently.

Now we have a person who saw a kid he thought was suspicious — for what? Do we know? He decides (after being advised not to) to approach a person in the dark out of sight that he said was suspicious. And do what?

Was he wearing a uniform or carrying ID that lets you know you are dealing with someone in a professional capacity? Was his car marked as a community patrol unit? These are some questions I have and the public needs to think about. Or did he follow someone in a deliberate mode almost stalking? Did he say something to the person that was threatening or fearful —  so intimidating that it would frighten you and make you fear for your life in an isolated dark area where no one else could see you? Was that person so aggressive that it scared you to a mode of defense?

With so many robberies, murders, abductions going on today, may be the kid felt for his life, maybe he thought this guy was trying to do him bodily harm. Maybe he was right. But we won’t know, because he has no voice. He is dead, and everyone knows dead men tell no tales.

We can only get a one-sided account from a man who was told not to approach the child, but did. We can only wonder why he was so driven, why he was so aggressive, why he was so intent on having it his way.

Since when does the aggressor get to call it self-defense when the so-called perpetrator is moving away from them and not to them? If an unknown subject jumped or attacked you, or even stalked you, it might make you defend yourself by any means necessary.



  1. Should mall cops carry guns?

  2. steelhawk

    Blah, Blah, Blah. The left with there selective outrage.

  3. Brilliant comment, steelhawk. So well-reasoned and intelligently-stated. And the spelling of the seventh word reflects such a fine education.

    Good work.


    This was similar to my thought. A child is dead at the hands of an adult that was chasing him with a gun. When did it become okay for a stranger with a gun to chase a child? How many times do we tell our children to RUN if someone approaches them, and if someone grabs them to fight as hard as they can so they can get away. This is true for the little girl in LA who fought off her attacker said her father in tears. Any mature adult would not follow a child of any age, they would call the police. If you come toward me with a gun I will run thinking you are trying to abduct or rape me. We live in a world with SICK PERVERTED child predators and children should be protected first and foremost with this in mind.. . In fact let’s just say this man was a predators he chased a child. And for the record many children act up in school because they are going through hormone changes during puberty and some more than others thus causing some behavior issues, however that does not give a stranger that is possibly trying to do harm to an unarmed child the right to chase or kill him. And when did it become a crime to wear a sweatshirt with a hood.

  5. Here’s a brilliant comment from a former leader of the NAACP (it’s brilliant because he agrees with me)


    Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”

    “His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a Monday interview with The Daily Caller.

    The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”

  6. One question in the media’s portrayal of this situation: why do all the news outlets (and even Pat did it here) continue to use the smiling Trayvon pic and the orange jumpsuit shot of George Zimmerman? Very few have used the pic of Zimmerman smiling and dressed in jacket/tie, which can be found in a quick Google search. From a pure media analysis standpoint, it’s inflammatory and misleading.

  7. Freda Petersen

    Trayvon Martin was not the aggressor, Mr Zimmerman was. He was told by the dispatch person not to follow. My heart is filled with tears for the disregard of human life, and the way leaders, media, and the people cause division. No one wants to do what they know in their heart and soul is the right thing to do. I hear and read the posion that are coming from the hearts people and how sad when there is no reasoning among Men. all children deserve our protection and concern. when a nation is under attack we pray and fight together, why not for this child. something is very wrong. Is our spirits so hateful we only care if it happens to anyone but us. we are a precious people and we must stop this skin color/race hatred. We should only hate when a wrong has been done with malice and evil intent. and God know the people that is causes division, HE SEE’s ALL.

  8. We were born to a great nation, but it’s times like this that make you see that some of it’s greatness is tarnished with hatred and bigotry. This tragic story should be about a teenager being shot. But in reality this story has become about race, with conservatives defending everything Zimmerman did immaterial of any conclusive facts. Martin’s color shouldn’t have been an issue, but conservatives have made it that way. On some forums some go so far as to say all, i won’t use the word they use to describe people of color, black people are criminals and should be treated as such.

    Why not let the investigation find out what happened before we start pointing fingers and jumping to racist conclusions?

    This is a great nation, and voting for Obama was a step in the right direction. But it’ll never be truly great until we stamp out this evil hatred. As we see with the hatred for Obama simply because of his skin color, and the hatred for this tragic teen simply because he wasn’t born white and conservative. Once we stamp it out only then can we advance as a species, as God intended.

  9. Freda Petersen

    Through the eyes of a child
    skin is just skin
    and speaks not a word
    of the person within
    Race is what happens
    on the playground at school
    Color is crayons
    and rainbows and jewels
    Through the eyes of a child
    everybody’s a friend
    there’s no problem
    Rock, Paper, Scissors can’t mend
    War is a game
    played with green plastic men
    nobody gets hurt
    when it’s only pretend
    Through the eyes of a child
    happiness reigns
    love lasts forever
    and is never in vain

    Time is eternal
    imagination runs wild
    when you see the world
    through the eyes of a child

    Author, Stephanie Lush.

  10. It is really sad that a kid was murdered by an adult. To me from the facts I have read, Trayvon was being stalked by Zimmermen. The pictures shown are immaterial what is material is the fact that a kid got killed while walking home carrying iced tea. The former police officer has said it all. Why did’nt Zimmermen do like how the police officer says should have been done? Zimmermanis guilty here not Martin.He killed an innocent boy who was unarmed. The wound he allegedly says he has could have been there even before the incident. I dont see how Martin could have done that while he is dead. If Martin was on top of Zimmermen why did he not kill him, why is he the one dead? I feel soorry for Martin’s parents. Losing a kid is really trrible and in such circumstances it is really painful.

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