Posted by Pat Cunningham on May 2, 2012 in Uncategorized | 33 comments
This ad from eight years ago is part of a mountain of evidence (see HERE and HERE) that some of today’s Republicans are hypocrites:
Republicans talk. Democrats do. Do you want talkers or doers?
Kerry’s free to travel about the world without fear of being placed in irons. W and dirty Dick not so much.
So Scott Walker is just a talker huh? Imagine what the left would have done if he actually “did” something.
Seems like he has done an awful lot of good to me.
“Seems like he has done an awful lot of good to me.”
Of course it does. You are one of the people he is trying to help.
So silly Jerry.
He has helped every single person in the State of Wisconsin.
Property taxes in check.
Preservation of jobs, including those of many public employees who would have been fired if they were not released from their union bonds.
And now there is this:
The state will spend $100 million over two years for business expansion, new housing and other improvements designed to create more jobs in Milwaukee’s poorest neighborhoods, Gov. Scott Walker said Monday.
Walker and other state officials announced “Transform Milwaukee,” a program that will coordinate the resources of multiple state agencies with the city and other economic development entities.
It includes efforts to reoccupy foreclosed and vacant properties, provide loans and venture funding for small businesses and industrial development, and improve freight and intermodal transportation to foster the revitalization of industry.
Oh yeah, there is also this (Remember, Illinois is 48th):
May 2, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Didn’t know where to post this for you Pat, but I knew you would be interested.
At least Walker isn’t following Pat Quinn’s policies. Keep in mind when you look at this poll that Wisconsin was ranked 41 in 2010, the last year of Diamond Jim Doyle and Democratic control of the State House in Wisconsin.
It may be no accident that most of the states in the top 20 are also right-to-work states, as labor force flexibility is highly sought after when a business seeks a location. Several economists, most notably Ohio State’s Richard Vedder and Harvard’s Robert Barro, have found that the economies in R-to-W areas grow faster than other states, have higher employment and attract more inward migration. Governor Scott Walker’s battle with the unions in Wisconsin (See “Will Wisconsin Rise Again?”), a state that edged into the top 20 this year for this first time, demonstrates that the struggle for a pro-growth agenda can be contentious. As one Badger State business leader remarked, “Finally, Wisconsin is headed in the right direction.”
If what you say is true, he should have no problem with the recall. The results of the recall will determine the truth of your statement.
Tim said: “Liberals attack people, Conservatives attack issues.”
Then doc says: “Alec Baldwin is a hilarious doofus.”
Then Timmy said: “you are wrong again, he is a socialist.”
Then Timmy said: “or is it a left leaning braggart like almost any liberal media in the mix today???”
And this from Timmy: “Then a bunch of head in rectum liberals fell in lock step “
This from Timah: “Pat you are a disgrace “
Again: “community rabble rouser”
One more: “ya clown of the columns.”
And finally this: “when liberals are exposed vulgarity and insults are their only recourse.”
So thanks for your intelligent comments Timah. Well, semi-intelligent. It also seems as you have an affinity for other people’s bottoms. Why is that?
You don’t have to answer now. You better let your mommy use the computer for awhile.
Everything I stated is absolutely the truth.
Let’s hope the peoplel of Wisconsin see the truth through the gaseous fog the public unions are going to throw up in a desperate bid to regain their lost power.
Tex proves that liberals don’t like it when conservatives take a page out of the Saul Alinsky playbook.
Any time you want to have a conversation about what is taking place in Wisconsin, using truth, and real live math facts, just let me know. I promise I won’t callyou any names.
Doc thinks that a right to work state is a good thing. The reason businesses move there is because they can exploit the workers without union protection. People have to take those jobs to feed their families. They work for low wages and unsafe conditions.
And don’t believe little Timah when he tells us that a right to work state is a good thing. Unless you are a suck-up you will go nowhere. All workers are at the mercy of ‘the man.’ It doesn’t matter how hard you work, you will get nothing. I worked in a right to work state and left. Most people are sucked into thinking it is a good thing. After they get there they find out how bad it is, but don’t make enough money to get out.
But you doctor thugs don’t have to worry about a right to work state. You have your monopoly going, and Walker would never go after you. Not unless the Koch brothers told him to.
doc says: Property taxes in check.
They are not in check. The value of homes has fallen, thus property taxes are lower.
Property taxes in Wisconsin went down for the first time in more than 10 years. My home value has been dropping for 4 years.
What makes you think I have a monopoly? Me thinks you don’t understand the word.
This will help you understand Tex.
If all the property values in the community decrease, the tax levy does not decrease. It stays the same in order to continue to operate the municipal government, schools and other obligations. With a levy-based system, property taxpayers continue to share the burden regardless of whether their values rise, fall or remain unchanged.
Tim May: If you want to continue hanging around with the big kids here, watch your language. The last sentence of your latest comment is unacceptable. If anything like that happens again, you’re gone from here. And don’t argue with me about this.
Tex – The only things things unions do is force employers to pay for salaries and benefits well above current market rates. Thus, the price of the goods and service of the business goes up, or the business looks for cheaper labor elsewhere. Or in the case of public sector unions, government is constantly forced to raise taxes or cut back on services.
Unions do not help with “unsafe conditions.” We have OSHA for that. Unions haven’t had much influence in that area in over 40 years.
If you want a job with a better salary, improve your skills and get a better job. Simple as that.
Scott Walker and his billionaire allies. Are they a risk we can afford to take today?
Nef: Don’t lump all unions into one. I agree that some public service unions (police and fire) get too much. Construction unions were always held to cost of living raises through collective bargaining. The company owners, who are on the committees see to that. So workers are always getting a trailing wage to keep up with inflation.
During Tricky Dick’s term construction wages were frozen for several years (wage and price controls) probably due to the fact they were Democrats and he wouldn’t get their votes anyway. Inflation still continued to go up.
So tell me. What are current market rates? Just because a business exploits the workers in a right to work state, that is not a market rate. Do you think skilled workers should make less than a decent living wage? Without healthcare? By the way construction workers pay their own healthcare, and get no paid holidays or paid vacations. If the weather is bad they go home without pay.
And unions train their workers in OSHA rules, to prevent big fines to the company owners, and to have a safe workplace for everyone.
I’ve lived and worked in a right to work state. Wages were half and prices were even more than union states. So don’t blame unions. It’s the greedy corporations that raise prices.
So if you’re going to bash unions, make sure you know which ones you are bashing.
Try to get some new material besides the party line. That last comment itself is so meaningless as to be laughable.
Even Scott Walker doesn’t lump all unions into one.
He has left alone the public safety unions that Tex says get too much. He has repeatedly said he has no interest in making Wisconsin a right to work state.
It is the public unions, whose employees work for state and local government that were the cancer in Wisconsin and have been essentially removed.
Leave it to an “experienced doctor” to throw the word cancer around. Insensitive and classless. But no surprise.
BTW, the WI public safety unions are not supporters of Walker despite being spared his cash grab. They know the important role unions have played in building a strong middle class. Sensible business owners should also know that if they screw workers out of a living wage they will end up with fewer and fewer customers who can afford their products.
I use the cancer word everyday. When I diagnose it, treat it and discuss it with patients.
Your feigned offense is silly.
Apparently, Scott Walker is as sensible as those business owners, because he wants to leave private unions alone as well.
Actually Doc if you had watched the video you would have noticed that my comment was a parody from your party line. Now go to Wisconsin and kiss Walker’s ring.
It wasn’t the line, it was the “billionaire allies”. It is old, tired and meaningless.
Speaking of billionaires, one of his most famous billionaire supporters is up to no good again. Darn billionaires ! Why are they so diabolically evil?
WASHINGTON — An energy businessman is donating a record $35 million to the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History to build a new dinosaur hall on the National Mall, the museum complex announced Thursday.
The donation by David H. Koch, the executive vice president of Koch Industries Inc. of Wichita, Kan., is the single largest gift in the museum’s 102-year history. The Smithsonian Board of Regents voted Monday to name the new dinosaur hall in Koch’s honor.
Koch, an engineer trained at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, is a billionaire who lives in New York City. He was the Libertarian Party’s vice presidential candidate in 1980 and has been a major donor to conservative political causes, as well as to educational, medical and cultural groups.
Koch previously gave the Smithsonian $15 million in 2009 to build a new exhibit hall exploring human evolution over 6 million years. The museum’s Hall of Human Origins also was named in his honor.
In 2006, he gave $20 million to the American Museum of Natural History in New York City to create the David H. Koch Dinosaur Wing. And in 2008, he gave a record $100 million to New York’s Lincoln Center to renovate the former New York State Theater.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day…unless it is a twenty-four hour clock, so I guess a Koch can occasionally make a “good” donation.
They’re write offs Doc! “Koch Brothers Exposed” will get you up to speed.
Only a liberal can see charitable gifts totaling 100’s of millions of dollars, to an organization that benefits every citizen as a bad thing.
So he gets a right off, it is still money he earned. If the liberals have their way, then the allowance for charitable donations will be cut. What would you think will happen then?
The gifts aren’t a bad thing (which I did not say) it’s their hypocrisy to donate to worthy causes while polluting the earth for greed and self interest.
You don’t need/use any of the products they make?
The need/use of a product is not sufficient justification for “polluting the earth for greed and self interest”.
Well of course not.
But we have no viable alternative to replace many of those products that we “need” right now. Not only in this country, but in the rest of the world.
And in final response/contrast to the headline in the original post by Pat, the WSJ nails it when it comes to the recall election of Scott Walker. Why have the Democrats running against him “forgottten” why they claimed we needed a recall election in Wisconsin at all? Makes you think they are abusing the Democratic process if you ask me.
Remember the Greek-style protests in Madison, the union sit-ins, the lawmakers who fled to Illinois to avoid voting on Scott Walker’s collective-bargaining law last year? Now that the recall election of Mr. Walker is in full swing, Big Labor must be wondering where the outrage went.
Since last summer, unions have been throwing millions at defeating the man who reformed collective bargaining for government workers and required union members to pay 5.8% of their paychecks toward pensions and 12.6% of their health insurance premiums, modest contributions compared to the average in private business. As the May 8 Democratic recall primary nears to determine who will run against Mr. Walker on June 5, this should be their rhetorical moment ne plus ultra.
So, let’s see. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, the front-runner, has focused his campaigns on jobs, education, the environment and “making communities safer.” One of Mr. Barrett’s ads singles out “Walker’s War on Women,” with nary a mention of collective bargaining. Former Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk is heavily supported by union groups, but even her issues list makes only passing reference to collective bargaining.
No wonder. Since Mr. Walker’s reforms went into effect, the doom and gloom scenarios have failed to materialize. Property taxes in the state were down 0.4% in 2011, the first decline since 1998. According to Chief Executive magazine, Wisconsin moved up four more places this year to number 20 in an annual CEO survey of the best states to do business, after jumping 17 spots last year.
The Governor’s office has estimated that altogether the reforms have saved Badger State taxpayers more than $1 billion, including $65 million in changes in health-care plans, and some $543 million in local savings documented by media reports. According to the Wisconsin-based MacIver Institute, Mayor Barrett’s city of Milwaukee saved $19 million on health-care costs as a direct result of Mr. Walker’s reforms.
Tim May: What a dimwit you are!
First, you say: “I won’t argue with you…” And then you proceed to argue at length.
Oh, and as for the “four or five people” who read Applesauce, your estimate is a little off the mark. Since this blog was launched four years ago, the number of page views exceeds 1.5 million. On a really good day, there are about 2,000 page views. My best month, which was this January, brought 71,000 page views.
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