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Big surprise! Former GOP leaders in Florida admit to scheme to suppress Democratic voters!

 

If THIS STUFF doesn’t land some people in jail, there’s no justice:

A new Florida law that contributed to long voter lines and caused some to abandon voting altogether was intentionally designed by Florida GOP staff and consultants to inhibit Democratic voters, former GOP officials and current GOP consultants have told The Palm Beach Post.

Republican leaders said in proposing the law that it was meant to save money and fight voter fraud. But a former GOP chairman and former Gov. Charlie Crist, both of whom have been ousted from the party, now say that fraud concerns were advanced only as subterfuge for the law’s main purpose: GOP victory.

Former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer says he attended various meetings, beginning in 2009, at which party staffers and consultants pushed for reductions in early voting days and hours.

“The Republican Party, the strategists, the consultants, they firmly believe that early voting is bad for Republican Party candidates,” Greer told The Post. “It’s done for one reason and one reason only. … ‘We’ve got to cut down on early voting because early voting is not good for us,’ ” Greer said he was told by those staffers and consultants.

“They never came in to see me and tell me we had a (voter) fraud issue,” Greer said. “It’s all a marketing ploy.”

Greer is now under indictment, accused of stealing $200,000 from the party through a phony campaign fundraising operation. He, in turn, has sued the party, saying GOP leaders knew what he was doing and voiced no objection.

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  1. In the Democrat world, people under indictment are trustworthy, as are people that are still sore from losing a primary.

  2. Neftali: In the Republican world, the laughable myth of widespread voter fraud as an excuse for thinly-disguised voter suppression is par for the course.

  3. By the way, Neftali, you seem to be in need of one of my lectures about the misuse of the noun “Democrat” as an adjective.

  4. Of course, this post is about the republican world, not the DemocratIC world. Nice try at deflection, Neftali.

  5. Pat – I’m well aware of the differences between Democrat and Democratic as you can easily tell by doing a search of my previous posts. My use of the noun “Democrat” was intentional.

    More importantly, there appears to be a need for voter standardization. For example, in some places we have same-day voter registration, in other places, you don’t. The dates when the polls actually open for early voting also appears to vary greatly.

  6. Neftali,
    All you calling for a federal government takeover of voting regulations, something the States have always had the right to determine themselves?!?

  7. Jerry – Hopefully it won’t come to that, but its clear some consistently would help everyone.

  8. Again and again and again this has been discussed and it’s always the same. . . Do any of the wingnuts have any real evidence of serious voter fraud in this past election??? Or any of the recent Presidential elections? Anyone? Anyone? Voter fraud is nearly non-existent, yet works as a convenient smokescreen for the GOP to suppress the vote of those that don’t vote GOP. Plain and simple.

  9. Consistency is nice, but what about ease of registration and voting? I think these items are more important, and these are items that republicans seem to be trying to restrict.

  10. Luke Fredrickson

    “More importantly, there appears to be a need for voter standardization.”

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Most importantly, there does not.

  11. Craig KNAUSS

    I now live in Washington state. We have a primary system that only advances the top two vote getting candidates to the general election (for the jurisdiction area of the position). All candidates representing all parties are put on ONE ballot for the primary and the top two advance. Since this part of the state is staunchly Republican, our local elections frequently have two Republicans on the general election ballot, since no Dem got enough votes to be in the top two. And yet the locals complain about high taxes, even though their party has run things for decades, and corruption, because Dems on the west side (where 82% of the population lives) outnumber the Repubs and elected a Dem governor and president.

  12. monkey – Yes, how dare people register ahead of time and acquire a form of id like every other responsible citizen in the country. Oh, that’s right, we don’t want responsible citizens, we want them dependent on government to take care of them. God forbid if people start actually taking care of themselves and not require the services of government any longer.

  13. Orlando Clay

    Our dim-bulb governor and his cronies attempted, but ultimately failed, to purge me from the voter rolls.

    In September, I received a letter from the Orange County Supervisor of Elections informing me that when compared to the signature on my original voter registration document, the signature on my absentee ballot from the August 2012 primary election was suspect. I was advised that unless I appeared in person at the Board of Elections with a photo ID to confirm my identity, I risked having my name removed from the voter rolls. (Of course, I am sure that this had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I am a life-long registered Democrat in 1 of only 2 counties in central Florida where the number of registered Democrats exceeds the number of registered Republicans.)

    Did these idiot Republicans really think that a Democrat who has voted in every presidential election since 1976 would just acquiesce and willingly give up his right to vote without taking action? I was the first in line at the Board of Elections office the very next day.

    Remember that kids on your block who could never win without cheating? They most likely grew up to be Republican operatives, no doubt about it.

  14. Neftali: None of your blather changes the fact that Republicans have bent every effort to hold down the vote — and they’ve done so on the bogus grounds that voter fraud is a big problem in this country.

    As I’ve said before, it all stems from something the late Paul Weyrich said 32 years ago in a speech to Religious Rightists: “I don’t want everybody to vote. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”

    It’s that simple. Republicans don’t want everybody to vote.

  15. Brian Opsahl

    This is the same as a Magician, look at this hand…come-on look over here…then of course when your looking at the hand he wants you to look at…the trick comes from the hand your NOT looking at…Bush spent some 70 million dollars of taxpayer money to prove Voter Fraud and fot all that money spent….nothing,nada,nope not a dam thing all those high paid republican laywers could find nothing.

  16. I think we should go with the ink on the thumb method.

  17. Just out of curiousity, how many actual votes have been supressed by these evil Republicans?

  18. Orlando – On the contrary, the Florida Gov and company are just doing their job. While voter fraud itself is hard to prove, voter registration fraud is rampant across the country. Even Pat cannot deny that.

    Look at it another way. What’s the alternative? Let people whose signatures do not even remotely match still get the opportunity to vote? Better yet, to heck with it all!! Let’s just go on the honor system. No regulations at all. Republicans don’t like regulations anyway. Let people vote as many times as their heart’s content. It pretty much what we do here in Chicago land anyway.

  19. Doc is that something that can collect data on?

    Let the republicans continue to suppress votes. Who cares. Not like they are going to win anyways. If they are spending their energy on voter suppression they are ignoring what really matters to this country. This is a win win for the dems.

  20. Neftali writes: “Let people vote as many times as their heart’s content. It pretty much what we do here in Chicago land anyway.”

    Of course, he has no evidence to support his theory about Chicago. If there have been any cases of Chicago voters casting more than one ballot in the same eleciton in the past few decades, I haven’t heard about them. And I’m guessing that the only such cases Neftali has heard about are myths he picks up from right-wing fantasists.

  21. Pat writes “past few decades”, which is pretty much an admission that at one time there was a problem. Now, in rough English dialect, “couple” generally means “two” while “few” generally means “three.” So the last 3 decades would take us back to about the 70′s when Chicago voting fraud allegedly stopped becoming rampant.

    Of course, Pat (because he’s hard to read sometimes) might also be suggesting that the United States has has zero history of voter fraud. I’m sure if he put on his historian cap for a second he would realize this is probably inaccurate. For example, its widely known, but never proven, that Tom Pendergast led a ballot stuffing effort for Harry Truman’s Senate campaign. Heck, you can even buy a book on the history of such things, as seen here: http://www.amazon.com/Deliver-Vote-Political-Tradition-1742-2004/dp/0786718439

    So we have two choices: 1. We can continue to push for safe and trustworthy elections through efforts to validate voter identity or 2. Deny that its ever been an issue, or that its currently an issue, and we have nothing to worry about.

  22. Luke Fredrickson

    The simplest, and most cost effective method for ensuring ZERO voter fraud is to audit every election like they recently did in Pennsylvania. Why would anyone argue otherwise, considering:

    1. Cost is much less than Republic efforts to supply state photo IDs to all eligible voters.
    2. It would ensure a completely accurate election, with frauds prosecuted and honest errors corrected.
    3. It would maximize the number of voters (Democracy!) by removing all obstacles to honest participation.

    Of course, the PA wingnuts audited that election to find some sliver of justification for their anti-fraud measures… and came up far short, at least in the eyes of the PA courts. But – irony alert! – they certainly did show the country how to solve this “problem”, once and for all.

  23. Orlando Clay

    Sorry, Neftali, but I assure you that my highly unique signature has not changed whatsoever in the years since I became a registered voter. And this issue has never previously manifested itself in the almost 40 years which I have been a registered voter.

    So, from a die-hard Republican perspective, I guess it’s nothing more than a simple misunderstanding, huh?

    I can’t wait until Charlie Crist officially switches political parties and I get a chance to vote “Pink Slip Rick” out of office in 2014.

  24. Neftali: Your justifications for Republican voter-suppression schemes become sillier with each effort. Witness your mention of the Pendergast machine and Harry Truman’s Senate candidacy of nearly 80 years ago.

    The indisputable fact remains that voter fraud is as rare as hen’s teeth. It almost never happens. Republicans simply don’t want the wrong people (especially minorities) voting in large numbers. Such an attitude is downright un-American, but these people still think they’re more patriotic than thou. Go figure.

  25. Let’s hope we hear more confessions from the dirty deeds society of teabaggery and start putting their members in jail starting with Governor Scott.

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