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At Fox News, it’s never the right time to discuss gun violence

Political satirist Jon Stewart did a masterful job last night skewering Fox News Channel for its blatant hypocrisy regarding the issue of gun violence in America.

There’s an eight-minute video of Stewart’s bit HERE.

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  1. Now seems like a good time to talk about guns. For example, I’m happy to see 7th Circuit Court of Appeals lay the smack down on our state’s unconstitutional ban on concealed carry.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-us-appeals-court-strikes-down-states-concealedcarry-ban-20121211,0,7034171.story

    Personal disclosure: I don’t own a gun. I really don’t even like guns. But if you want a concealed carry permit to carry yours, have at it. Glad to see that law-abiding citizens in Illinois will eventually be able to have that option.

  2. Brian Opsahl

    I used to be against conceal carry (my brother is a cop) but im starting to think that my saftey and the right to protect myself or family outways the criminals chances against me.

  3. I don’t own a weapon either, but the benefit of concealed carry seems to be that the “bad guys” don’t know who out there may be able to defend themselves at any given time.

  4. I’ve never owned a gun and likely never will. Nor have I ever felt a need for one.

    You see, I’m not a bedwetting paranoiac who shudders at things that go bump in the night. Nor do I have ridiculous fantasies about using firearms to overthrow an oppressive government.

    However, being anti-gun doesn’t make me anti-gun rights. That’s something the wackos have a hard time understanding. They think if you don’t get sexually aroused at the mere sight of a gun, you must be some kind of commie.

  5. When it comes to crime responsible gun ownership will never keep up with irresponsible gun ownership.

  6. Speaking of Fox News
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/11/fox-news-contributor-punched-in-face-at-pro-union-protests-in-michigan/

    A Fox News contributor was punched in the face during a pro-union protest Tuesday in Michigan, one of a series of confrontations between union demonstrators and opponents on the day the state Legislature approved so-called “right to work” legislation that unions oppose.

    Steven Crowder, a conservative comedian and Fox News contributor, had spent the day questioning demonstrators, and video he posted on YouTube showed some of them becoming verbally aggressive, with one telling him, “get the f— out of my face!”

    Another protester can be seen later in the video punching Crowder in the face before being restrained by another man.

    Crowder later posted photos on his Twitter account showing a chipped tooth and “minor cut on forehead.” He told the website TheBlaze.com that the scuffle started when protesters tried to tear down a tent set up by conservative organization Americans for Prosperity.

    “They were trying to tear down the tent and people were trying to pull them off. … And as they did that, a few people tripped,” he told the website. “This guy tripped over a tent peg and then got up and hit me.”

  7. Craig Knauss

    Well apparently it is the right time to discuss gun violence.
    A short time ago tonight a gunman killed two people at Clackamas Town Center Mall, near Portland. OR. OR as well as WA, where I live, are concealed carry states. I’ve lived out here for 11 years now, and I’ve found absolutely no evidence that concealed carry reduces crime. People are constantly getting robbed, raped, shot, and whatever. You’d be amazed how many arguments outside a bar or in a home, wind up in a shooting.

    Carrying a gun may make you feel safer, but having gun-toting citizens does not reduce the crime rate one bit.

  8. Brian Opsahl

    Doc: When your job is at risk people do desperate things….This right to work for less law is nothing but Union busting and shreds the middle class into nasty fights that are started directly from that law….and your surprised theres violence….

    I thought republicans were against getting free stuff, but your just fine with it as long as it is Union busting…What Hypocrits…!!

  9. Wonder if we’ll see the unedited version of the altercation from Fixed News. If you stick your nose where it shouldn’t be you may not like the outcome.

  10. doc: Here’s another slant on that so-called union thuggery that allegedly victimized Steven Crowder:

    http://www.emptywheel.net/2012/12/11/breitbart-folks-appear-to-fake-violence-in-lansing/

  11. Brian Opsahl

    Several years back my Uncle was the BA for the local Teamsters garbage truck drivers, when a camera guy from WREX TV put the camera in my Uncles face and tried to ask him a question, my Uncle told him nicely the first time to stop recording him the second time he warned him and when he ignored my Uncle again…he got punched in the camera face…yes my Uncle got arrested ,but the Union bailed him out and sent a Lawyer to his court case with him which was dissmised…the camera guy got about 7 stiches and a warning from the Judge….next time someone asked you to turn off your camera I suggest you comply….True Story …!! My Uncle is passed on now ,But what he did that day showed me how to stand up for yourself…!!

  12. “Carrying a gun may make you feel safer, but having gun-toting citizens does not reduce the crime rate one bit.”

    Even if that’s true, it’s OK. It is each law abiding citizen’s constitutional right to carry the gun if they are appropriately trained.

  13. Brian,

    I wish you would give some lessons to the Occupy people and the lefties who occupied the Wisconsin Capitol building last year.

  14. Brian,

    How is letting each employee choose whether or not they pay union dues costing people jobs? I have always found it fascinating that union members extoll the virtues of their organizations (and they have some) yet are afraid to let each worker decide their value for themselves.

    Here is a nice discussion on right to work laws.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/10/how-right-to-work-laws-could-reshape-michigans-economy/

  15. Brian Opsahl

    They may have lost that recall Doc….but that whole event fired up Union workers accross the entire Country for us…and it had alot to do with Mr. Obama winning that 2nd term…so we as Union workers should really Thank Governor Walker for fireing up the base so to speak…!!

  16. Yeah, it fired them up so much that right to work just passed in one of the largest union states in the country.

  17. Michigan isn’t like Wisconsin or Indiana. The new Michigan law imposes no limitation on unions’ ability to organize, to engage in collective bargaining, or to strike. It merely forbids them to take money out of the pockets of workers who do not wish to join them.

    In response, Democratic legislator Douglas Geiss declared on the floor of the state house: “There will be blood. There will be repercussions.” Real classy.

    This footage has nothing to do with Bretibart or Fox news, or any Conservative group. Its just union thugs doing what they do best, cause trouble. In this case they are getting into an altercation with the peace keeping law enforcement.

    http://youtu.be/14astMvJt4E

  18. Craig Knauss

    “In response, Democratic legislator Douglas Geiss declared on the floor of the state house: “There will be blood. There will be repercussions.” Real classy.” It was figurative speaking, although I agree it wasn’t very classy.

    So how about a Tea Party thug yelling “You lie!” at the president? (Joe Wilson, R-SC) How classy was that? Please tell us.

  19. Governor Walker doesn’t sound like such a radical today.

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/walker-says-ending-sameday-registration-too-early-i780lu5-183182971.html

    Saying he wanted to stay focused on improving the state’s business climate, Gov. Scott Walker said Wednesday that he would not sign a bill to end same-day voter registration because of its cost, and signaled that a right-to-work law was not on his agenda.

    On same-day registration, Walker said a recent Government Accountability Board report that says it would cost the state $5.2 million to end the state’s same-day registration law convinced him that he should not sign such a bill.

    “There is no way I’m signing a bill that costs that kind of money,” Walker told reporters.

    Walker said that, in light of the GAB report, he didn’t think members of the Legislature would even try to approve a bill to end the same-day registration law.

    Speaking one day after Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder signed two bills enacting right-to-work laws, Walker also said his priority in the upcoming legislative session and in the next budget was to create jobs. A right-to-work debate in the Legislature, he said, would be a distraction.

    “I recognize the last thing that I need if I want accelerated job growth over the next two or three years is any sort of battle that takes attention away from it,” said Walker, who supported right-to-work laws when he was a state legislator.

    On same-day registration, Walker had said in a speech last month in California that he was considering backing efforts to end same-day registration. The law has been credited with giving Wisconsin one of the highest voter turnout percentages in the country.

    But as Walker began to walk away from pushing for ending same-day registration, Rep. Joel Kleefisch (R-Oconomowoc) and Sen. Alberta Darling (R-River Hills) began circulating a draft bill that would end it. Kleefisch said Wednesday that his staff was “doing research on the components of the same-day registration law.”

    “Clearly, creating jobs is a priority,” Kleefisch said. “We will strongly consider the governor’s viewpoint.”

  20. Craig Knauss

    doc says, “It is each law abiding citizen’s constitutional right to carry the gun if they are appropriately trained.”

    That’s a big “if”, doc. How many states require adequate training? And how many states actually enforce that provision? Judging from the number of “accidental” and intentional shootings around WA, I’d say very few of our local hicks have had any training whatsoever. Also, it’s against WA law to carry a concealed weapon into bars, schools, churches, etc., but in 11 years I have not seen one single person searched and/or expelled for doing that. Not even one. That means the criminals aren’t the only dangerous people out there. Ponder that for a little while.

  21. I pondered it.

    It is still their constitutional right.

  22. Brian Opsahl

    Governor Synder is done in Michigan…he just sealed his fate and that of many of his republicans in the next election….and I promise this is not over…

  23. Craig Knauss

    BTW, doc, this is the Second Amendment:

    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Therefore, you have a right to own and bear a weapon, but it does not necessarily give you the right to carry a concealed firearm. So feel free to walk around with your musket strapped over your shoulder. That is your constitutional right.

  24. That would look weird. Besides, I don’t own a gun.

  25. This looks fake footage from a local station
    http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/Troopers-Use-Night-Sticks-on-Right-to-Work-Protesters-183048891.html

    I bet that union guy was waving and faux guy got his face in the way.

  26. Wrong Craig. “Keep and bear” does give you the right to concealed carry. The key word here is “keep.” Were the Framers implying that you have to leave your flintlock pistol at home? Of course not. And there is no way they were stating you had to display it openly.

    Penn and Teller explain it here: http://youtu.be/_YY5Rj4cQ50

  27. Brian Opsahl

    The part about conceal carry that has always worried me is what my Brother the Police Officer told me a long time ago when I asked him about what he felt as a Policemen. He said that his training is very extensive and one of the biggest things they teach when firing your weapon at a suspect is looking behond what your shooting at so as to NOT kill the kids playing across the street from your subject…most people do NOT get this kind of training and when presented with being fired at by someone…they just start shooting back without any reguard to whats behind them….This scares the hell out of me….but it scares me even more knowing how many criminals are useing guns now..!!

  28. Craig Knauss

    You’re wrong, Neftali.

    “Keep and bear” means only that. The Second Amendment does not say “keep and conceal” and was never intended to. And it was for militia purposes, since there was no standing military at the time. The more recent court decisions were about gun ownership in places where it was banned, such as Chicago and D.C. The courts did not address concealed carry. Only the 7th Appellant District decision about a week ago specifically addressed concealed carry.

    Furthermore, the pistols the founding fathers had were muzzle loaders which were about a foot long and heavy. They were carried in belts, not in pockets or purses.

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