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NRA news conference? Sorry, but it’s too soon for me to politicize such an awful tragedy

Those of you who have been waiting breathlessly for me to comment on the news conference this morning in which National Rifle Association mouthpiece Wayne LaPierre (above)  spoke on the subject currently on the minds of millions of  Americans will  just to have to wait a little bit longer.

You see, it’s too soon to make a political issue of LaPierre’s monologue. It was a disturbing event, to be sure, and as such, it requires that I refrain from trying to make political hay of it. Isn’t that pretty much the same thing people on LaPierre’s side of the gun-control debate said in the aftermath of last week’s massacre at a school in Connecticut? Yeah, they said we shouldn’t talk  about guns for a while. So, I’m not  going to talk about the NRA for a while. It won’t be long, mind you,  but decency requires that I remain silent for a respectful interval.

Meanwhile,  you can read what THIS GUY says about LaPierre and his news conference.

UPDATE: The satirical tone of this post seems to have missed the mark with some readers.

In the immediate wake of Sandy Hook, lots of gun enthusiasts faulted gun-control advocates for “politicizing” the tragedy so soon. The post above regarding today’s NRA news conference was an effort to parody that “too soon” stuff. Apparently, I was too  subtle.

Several Facebook readers thought I was serious. They didn’t catch on that the “awful tragedy” to which I was referring was Wayne LaPierre’s news conference, not the Stony Hook incident.

Oh, well.

 

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19 Comments

  1. This lunatic has blood on his apron that can’t be rinsed out.

  2. Blood on his apron?

    Spare us the drama.

    The lunatic was the shooter.

    The dead shooter and his mother who are to blame for the tragedy in Newtown.

  3. If you are the head of an organization that actively promotes the proliferation of guns in an industrialized country with more gun violence than any other country then yes you have blood on your apron.

  4. In the same way that the head of the tavern league would have all of the blood of those killed by drunken drivers on his/her apron I guess. Although, it would be a hell of alot more blood.

  5. Well how much blood does Budweiser, Jack Daniels, Miller, Ford, GM Chrysler have on their apron? Well not that we are making these analogies, how about Boeing, American Airlines, Delta etc.
    I am guessing we have more auto related deaths than any industrial country. I am also guessing we fly more, so we probably have more fatalities flying as well. If we don’t lead, then I would argue even one life lost to a car accident or an airplane is one too many and we need an all out ban.

  6. Drinking, driving and flying have strict regulations to minimize accidents and fatalities. NRA and guns not so much.

  7. Lets see you have to be 21 to drink, how do you have to be to buy a gun? You can’t drive until you are 16 or 17, how old do you have to be to buy a gun?
    Do drivers get background checks? Do drinkers get background checks?
    Are people with criminal records, the mentally disabled, unlawful aliens, dishonorably discharged military all prohibited to own and drive a car? Are they prohibited from Alcohol and its use?

    Well Steverino you have convinced me of one thing.

  8. I will say though that the Columbine killers dressed like the character in the Matrix. The Aurora shooter\killer appeared motivated by Batman and the Newtown killer by FPS video games as he was dress as a special ops soldier.
    There might be a correlation between those things and mental illness that drives some of these mass killings.
    I for one am for banning all violent movies and video games or as Steverino would probably want, “strict regulations” to minimize violence.

  9. Craig Knauss

    Wilson says, “I am guessing we have more auto related deaths than any industrial country. I am also guessing we fly more, so we probably have more fatalities flying as well.”

    Quit guessing, Wilson. Give us some numbers to prove what you say. Especially with regard to flying. Let’s see some statistics.

  10. Craig Knauss

    doc,

    Ever hear of “dram shop acts”? I suggest you look up the term.

  11. dram shop rule

    n. a statute (Dram Shop Act) or case law in 38 states which makes a business which sells alcoholic drinks or a host who serves liquor to a drinker who is obviously intoxicated or close to it, strictly liable to anyone injured by the drunken patron or guest. To the contrary, California recently passed legislation specifically banning such strict liability. It is often hard to prove that the liquor bought or served was the specific cause of an accident (such as an automobile crash while driving home), since there is always an intervening cause, namely, the drunk.

  12. Of course that doesn’t apply to the head of the tavern league.

  13. And then there is this.

    http://injury.findlaw.com/product-liability/product-liability-and-guns.html

    Negligent Sales in Firearm Cases

    Negligent sales may occur when there is a sale in violation of law or when there is a sale to purchasers who are intoxicated, mentally unstable, or who indicate that they are apt to misuse the weapon. A negligent sale case may also occur when a store gives physical possession of a weapon to a prospective purchaser before all the legal requirements for the sale are completed. Recently a least one court has held that gun manufacturers have a duty to exercise reasonable care in marketing and distribution of their products so as to guard against risk of criminal misuse.

    Negligent Entrustment in Firearm Cases

    Negligent entrustment cases are similar to negligent sale cases. In both negligent sale and negligent entrustment cases the crux of the argument is that the defendant was negligent in allowing someone who the defendant knew or had reason to know was incompetent, inexperienced or reckless to have access to the gun. Entrustment occurs when the gun is given to the person, the person is given permission to use it or the defendant knows that the person will use it without permission.

    Courts often combine negligent entrustment with negligent storage because negligent storage is a passive form of negligent entrustment. Negligent storage involves storing the weapon in such a way that it is likely to be misused. The usual scenario in such cases is when guns are left accessible to children, particularly small children who do not and cannot be expected to appreciate the danger posed by the weapon. In negligent storage cases, the theft of the gun does not necessarily relieve the owner of liability if the theft was reasonably foreseeable. In such cases the courts will look at how securely the weapon was stored.

  14. Craig Knauss

    Yep, doc.

    And when was the last time anyone has been held liable for violating either of those laws? Please tell me. I’ve seen bars have their licenses suspended for a while, but I’ve seen little litigation against a bar because one of their patrons committed reckless homicide.

    With regard to firearms, I’m curious because we have kids out here killing or injuring themselves or their siblings regularly with legal weapons. Recently a three year old shot himself in the head when he played with a handgun his father had “hidden” in their truck. I haven’t heard of any charges against the father since “he’s suffered enough”.

    In short, LaPierre and the NRA has blocked every attempt to mandate responsibility for firearms.

    I believe a little responsibility goes a long way. I thought you did too.

  15. I believe personal responsibility goes a very long way.

    What about the level of responsibility of a mother who teaches her mentally struggling son, who has completely withdrawn from society, how to shoot a semi-automatic rifle in order that he would become more engaged in the world?

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2012/11/24/dram-shop-laws/1660707/

    A heartbreaking drunken driving crash in Charlotte that critically injured a young couple and killed their unborn child and the intoxicated driver spotlights a set of laws designed to prevent bars and restaurants from serving alcohol to intoxicated patrons.

    Matt Eastridge and his wife, Meredith, who was six months pregnant, were driving home on Oct. 29, 2010, when police say David Huffman, who had a blood-alcohol content almost three times the legal limit and was driving more than 100 mph, slammed into their car. Huffman, 25, was leaving Eddie’s Place Restaurant and Bar in south Charlotte, where he had been served at least 10 drinks.

    This month, a Charlotte jury returned a $1.7 million verdict against Eddie’s Place, finding that the restaurant was negligent in serving alcohol to a person it knew or should have known was intoxicated

  16. Craig, where is that FBI link?
    So what do you now say about “strict regulations” , where is your proof?

    Although I hate using Wikipedia it looks like the US is third behind China and India in traffic fatalities. I didn’t find a breakdown on Alcohol related deaths.

    http://www.airfleets.net/crash/stat_country.htm

    USA 59, the next closest India with 18

    Check out Switzerland and their gun rights and tell me about the mass shootings there.
    I think that in itself shows we don’t have a gun problem we have a cultural problem.

    Craig, give up… you progressives have hand a big hand in creating our current culture.

  17. The Swiss have guns but their ammo is sealed and may not be used unless the country is under general mobilization. They also have socialized health care.

  18. Steverino,
    Socialized medicine, now that is subject appropriate.
    “Also, since 2008, all army — but not private — ammunitions are required to be stored in central arsenals.”
    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2049136,00.html

    Craig,
    >In short, LaPierre and the NRA has blocked every attempt to mandate responsibility for firearms.

    The NRA promotes gun safety, you really are uninformed. training.nra.org/

  19. Craig Knauss

    Wilson,

    I can understand why you hate using Wikipedia. It’s because you don’t have a clue how to use it or how to read statistics.

    First, here’s the link to the FBI crime data. This is the second time I’ve given it to you. Try reading it this time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

    And I looked at your link on commercial airline accidents. I don’t suppose you happened to notice that it didn’t indicate any time period. Those appear to be historical totals going back quite some time. Some of those countries are just getting commercial aviation. (FYI, I’ve flown on a number of foreign air carriers including Russia, China, Norway, Jamaica, Finland, Switzerland, Sweden. Have you?) For example, the link below shows that U.S. commercial airlines have had only one accident in the last three years (2010, 2011, 2012) with only 2 fatalities (a UPS flight overseas). So how many gun deaths have we had in 3 years? Fewer than 2?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft

    And the next link says that this decade was the safest ever for air travel.

    http://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/U-S-commercial-airlines-have-safest-decade-ever-2435203.php

    And while the NRA promotes “safety”, it does not mean they support responsibility. Encouraging every Tom, Dick, and Billy Bob to go around town with a loaded gun in his pocket is hardly responsible. It’s that kind of behavior that caused former president George H.W. Bush to quit the NRA.

    And maybe you’d like to tell us how many mass shootings have occurred in places like China, Japan, England, Australia, etc., where they have much stricter gun controls than here? Even Russia, which has the Russian Mafia killing people, has less gun deaths than we do.

    Give it up, Wilson. You’re way out of your league.

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