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Steve Marmel, an Illinois native and alumnus of the University of Wisconsin, is a TV writer and producer and stand-up comic.

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  1. Steve Marmel was a doofus when he was at UW and he is still a doofus now. Marmel imagines a response to something that hasn’t happened. In other words, this tweet is just a product of his warped fantasy land.

    Can you imagine if the first black President proposed armed guards in the schools?

    Oh, that’s right, he did. It was an actual proposal that really happened. I don’t seem to remember wild attacks from the left that have been directed at the NRA this week.

    Oh well,we are all used to hypocrisy from the left.

    http://times247.com/articles/bill-clinton-once-backed-armed-guards-in-schools

    Ironically, it was Clinton who, in 1998, spearheaded a program akin to the school safety initiative proposed by NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre on Friday, which was widely criticized by Democrats, that would put armed guards in schools across the country. The New York Times reported at the time:

    “Two weeks ago, President Clinton announced a program called Cops in Schools, aimed at making it easier for school districts to get money to hire police officers in hopes of preventing the types of shootings that have resulted in the deaths of students and teachers in half a dozen schools in the last three years.”

  2. Here is even more on this topic.

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/12/21/this-post-is-going-to-be-very-confusing-to-some-people/

    The NRA came out with a proposal to post armed police officers at schools to prevent or at least minimize the next school shooting. The left promptly called the idea nuts.

    Turns out, it wasn’t a new idea. President Bill Clinton proposed the same idea in April 2000. He implemented it, too, only to see Barack Obama cut the funding for it.

    So, if you’re keeping score, the NRA agrees with a 12-year old Bill Clinton position on school security. The left just called a former Democrat president “crazy.”

    Let’s get even more confusing. Clinton proposed more security for schools in the wake of the 1999 Columbine shooting. It turns out that Columbine High School did have an armed sheriff’s deputy on the scene the day of its tragic shooting spree. That deputy exchanged fire with one of the killers twice, drawing their attention away from killing unarmed teenagers. The deputy and his backup also helped organize the evacuation of students from the school. Though the deputy’s presence obviously did not stop the attack from happening, it likely did save many lives.

    Let’s pile on even more confusion. The NRA today proposed protecting our children to a level similar to the way we protect our banks and many public buildings: With armed security. As we’ve established, this idea has been around for more than 12 years and was once proposed by a Democratic president. Many on the anti-gun left responded to today’s proposal not with a thoughtful rejoinder, but with calls to shoot Wayne LaPierre.

    I’m not done yet. There is one more bit of confusing data to work with. The Columbine shooting occurred on April 20, 1999. The Assault Weapons Ban that the Democrats wish to revive in response to the Newtown killings ran from 1993 to 2004.

  3. Craig Knauss

    How do you know Marmel was a doofus? Were you one too?

    Postings from the far-right loonies? How original. The Washington Times is a crackpot paper with the journalistic integrity of Rush Limbaugh. It’s owned by the Moonies. I’m surprised you didn’t get some Neo-Nazi site in there as well.

    And when the Dems propose school guards, they at least consider how they would be funded. Peewee LaPierre did not. My low end rough guess is $50,000 per year per cop. Will the NRA pay for this? If the NRA contributed $1000 per member (~$4.3 B total) that would be a good start. But don’t count on it happening.

    What’s your point on the Columbine massacre? Yes, it was 1999 during the assault weapons ban. How many massacres were there that year? The ban is over and we’ve had 8 massacres this year alone. 27 dead at just one site. Letting the ban expire sure helped. Didn’t it?

  4. Craig,

    Such a pure liberal answer.

    Attack the poster.

    Attack the source.

    Deny the facts.

    Steve Marmel was a doofus because, well he was.That wasn’t my opinion alone, it was pretty much universally shared on the campus. It was part of his act and part of his only sometimes funny attempts at comedy early in his career. He has been very commercially succesful as a writer, but his tweet is idiotic.

    Bill Clinton did in fact propose the very same thing proposed by La Pierre. Why should the NRA pay for it?

    The presence or absence of an assault weapon ban will not prevent these incidents in the future unless you plan to confiscate existing weapons. There are too many in existence, legally purchased and legally owned.

    ask yourself this: Why do the children of the wealthy elite in DC have armed guards at their school?

    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13684392-president-obamas-daughters-school-has-armed-guards-does-this-change-your-opinion-on-nra-proposed-armed-guards-in-schools

    When NRA’s Wayne LaPierre proposed on Friday that we have armed guards at all schools, a wave of strong opposition barreled over his statement. When he said, “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” gun control advocates, pundits and those gripped by anti-gun sentiments now rippling through the country, gave a collective gasp. They accused LaPierre’s pushing for more guns as exacerbating the problem.

    But if you learn that President Obama’s two daughters’ school has 11 armed guards, would that change your opinion of arming our school guards?

    Located in Bethesda, Md., the prestigious Sidwell Friends School which Sasha and Malia attend has reportedly always been staffed with armed guards and they were not introduced because the first daughters go there. ( Read more here).

    The alumni reads like the “who’s who” of the politically powerful and the elite of America and many past presidents’ children have gone there. Maybe it stands to reason that the rich and powerful among us will want their children properly protected even if it means guns on school grounds.

    So why did LaPierre’s proposal meet with such visceral opposition? If armed guards aren’t causing any noted trauma to the elite in our society’s offspring, why do we think it will cause irreparable damage to ours?

  5. Craig Knauss

    doc,

    Such pure rightwing evasion.

    I asked if you were a doofus too? No answer.

    You feel you can get reliable information from unreliable sources. Typical.

    You never said if Clinton addressed funding for the guards. LaPierre sure didn’t.
    So who should pay for all these armed guards? You ignored that issue.

    Why do the wealthy elite in D.C. have guarded schools? Are you serious? Because they’re wealthy elite ransom targets. Ever hear of poor kids being kidnapped for ransom? Kidnappings are for ransom or leverage. A president could represent either. So where did GWB’s daughters go to school?

    And if we’re going to have armed guards, why stop there? Razor wire is nice, especially when electrified. So are anti-personnel mines. And huge nasty dogs. Hell, let’s make our schools look like Auschwitz.

    I like your logic. Since we already have too many assault weapons in circulation, even more is acceptable.

  6. I might have been a doofus, but exactly how is that related to the question at hand?

    The source of FACTS don’t matter when they are actually facts.

    Bill Clinton did propose said plan and he funded it. Guess who cut it? You got it, Obama. (See link)

    Why don’t armed crazies attacked the armed rich kids school? The wealthy kids would be the highest value targets. Oh that’s right,it’s because they have armed guards.

    The assault weapons are already in circulation. Unless you want to propose a plan to confiscate them, why don’t you try a plan that will actually work instead of just making you feel good?

    Talking to liberals is like talking to my kids. You aren’t 12 years old are you Craig?

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/12/21/this-post-is-going-to-be-very-confusing-to-some-people/

    The NRA came out with a proposal to post armed police officers at schools to prevent or at least minimize the next school shooting. The left promptly called the idea nuts.

    Turns out, it wasn’t a new idea. President Bill Clinton proposed the same idea in April 2000. He implemented it, too, only to see Barack Obama cut the funding for it.

    So, if you’re keeping score, the NRA agrees with a 12-year old Bill Clinton position on school security. The left just called a former Democrat president “crazy.”

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