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General McChrystal calls for serious gun control

A military man who knows a thing or two about firearms SPEAKS OUT:

Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal came out in favor of gun control restrictions in a Tuesday morning appearance on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“I spent a career carrying typically either a M16, and later a M4 carbine,” he said. “And a M4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round, which is 5.56 millimeters, at about 3,000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It’s designed to do that. That’s what our soldiers ought to carry.”

Said McChrystal, “I personally don’t think there’s any need for that kind of weaponry on the streets and particularly around the schools in America. I believe that we’ve got to take a serious look — I understand everybody’s desire to have whatever they want — but we have to protect our children and our police and we have to protect our population. And I think we have to take a very mature look at that…

“I think serious action is necessary. Sometimes we talk about very limited actions on the edges, and I just don’t think that’s enough,” he said.

Asked what his message was to the National Rifle Association and the House Judiciary Committee, he said, “I think we have to look at the situation in America. The number of people killed by firearms is extraordinary compared to other nations. I don’t think we’re a bloodthirsty culture, and we need to look at everything we can do to safeguard our people.”

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  1. How many of the people killed by firearms in this country are killed by military assault type weapons?

    How many are killed by legally purchased firearms being used by their legal owner?

    How many are killed by illegaly acquired firearms or those not used by the registered owner?

  2. How many children live in a home with a loaded unlocked gun?

  3. There’s no accounting for stupidity.

  4. Craig Knauss

    doc,

    The following will answer some of your questions:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map

    And if all gun owners exercised proper control over their weapons, the answer to your last question would be “damn few”. But all gun owners don’t exercise proper control and so “damn few” is not the answer.

    We just had some kid accidentally shoot his brother last night just north of here. Happens every few days and we don’t have that many people out here.

  5. It’s not stupidity Doc if one has a genuine concern for the health and safety of children who have no control over the decision to have a loaded gun in their home. Several hundered children every year are victims to accidental shootings.

  6. How many die in car accidents from not wearing seat belts? Killed by a drunk driver? How about at the hands of their mothers abusive boyfriend?

  7. nov_284

    You’re more likely to be killed by a doctor than by a firearm. You’re more likely to be killed by a car than a firearm. I’m pretty sure that you’re more likely to die of cancer than by a firearm. If you do die of gunshot wounds, most likely they were self inflicted (in which case if you didn’t have a gun you’d use another method), 2nd most likely is that you were shot by a fellow gang-banger that wears different colors than you and is therefore your enemy (in which case, good riddance). If you’re a child, you’re more likely to drown in a pool than to die by firearms.

    Countries that ban firearms typically see increases in violent crimes of all stripes. >15% of burglaries in the US occur while the home is occupied compared to <60% in Europe. It's been said that the violent crime rate in Europe is as much as 3.5x the rate in the US, per 100,000 citizens. If you remove just 9 counties from America's 5k+, our crime rate of all types plummets. All 9 of the aforementioned counties are in the top 10 for strictest gun control laws.

    Nearly all mass shootings occur in gun-free zones. The only one that I can think of that did not was the Giffords shooting. At least two school shootings in the US were cut short by people who had firearms in their vehicles and were able to retrieve them in time, another attempted mass shooting in a mall was interrupted by a ccw permit holder, while a 4th shooting was stopped by an off duty police officer who was armed. Israel's response to mass shootings at schools was to require teachers to be armed. School shootings are no longer a problem in Israel.

    I'm not going to debate the 2nd Amendment on safety grounds, however. The above was just a mental exercise to demonstrate how pathetic the gun control case really is and how dishonest the gun control crowd is forced to be to have a case to make. The fact is that an armed populace is supposed to be the final check against a totalitarian government that no longer governs with the consent of the people. A government that executes or imprisons its citizens indefinitely with no charge or evidence provided, a government that routinely ignores due process and rights of privacy, a government that criminalizes victimless behavior and stretches clauses of the constitution to enable it to have a plenary power that was supposed to belong to the states. Such a government would perceive the threat that millions of armed citizens would constitute, and would be derelict in its duty to remain in power at all costs if it didn't use all means at its disposal, to include propaganda and spurious judicial decisions, to diffuse and disarm that threat. In the final analysis, the reason I need guns, particularly so-called "assault weapons," is because my government does not believe that I should be allowed to exercise my animal right to self preservation, a right, I would like to remind the reader, that predates the existence of our nation, and in fact exists despite the best efforts of governments the world over.

  8. nov_284

    edit to my last post: it should have read 60% in europe.

  9. Doc,

    What is your point?

    There are strict laws regarding seat belts, driving while intoxicated, and obviously child abuse. Laws in these cases save lives. Why do you think that laws regarding gun storage and type would not do the same?

  10. General McChrystal is saying that AR-15’s only belong to the military because they push a 55gr .22 caliber bullet to around 3200 fps. The regular factory load for the 150 grain spitzer bullet in the .30-06 hunting rifle has a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2,910 fps with muzzle energy (ME) of 2,820 ft. lbs. A little slower, but hits with much more energy.

  11. In 2009 there were 1.211 million abortions compared to 9142, UN numbers, total firearm death all ages in the US. If we are saving children’s lives, we are looking at the wrong issue.

  12. Jimmyjam

    We should be alowed the same protection that the elite have to protect their family…. They are no better than us, or, are they more able or superior to say what is “best” for me or my home than I am as a FREE citizen of this USA.

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