Let’s see: Democrat in the White House? Check! Militia groups proliferating? Check!

A phenomenon that arose when Democrat Bill Clinton was president and then faded under George W. Bush is exploding with Barack Obama in the White House.

There’s a word for this: Pavlovian.

HERE‘s the story:

While the more mainstream anti-government Tea Party movement faded from view as the GOP co-opted it in the past few years, the action has moved to the fringes, where the number of radical right-wing Patriot groups reached an all time high in 2012, according to a new report fromfrom the Southern Poverty Law Center. What’s more, it’s the fourth year in a row that the record has been broken.

Conspiracy-minded Patriot groups first entered the public consciousness in the 1990s with the rise of the militia movement, and then the Oklahoma City bombing. Now, the SPLC is warning government officials that they see eerie similarities between the current era and that leading up to the bombing.

“As in the period before the Oklahoma City bombing, we now are seeing ominous threats from those who believe that the government is poised to take their guns,” the group’s president, Richard Cohen, wrote in a letter sent Tuesday to Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

The number of Patriot groups peaked after the bombing in 1996 at 858, before falling off steeply and remaining low under George W. Bush. However, since the election of Barack Obama, the number of groups tracked by the SPLC has skyrocketed and continued to climb.

Last year, the SPLC found 1,360 Patriot groups in the country — up more than 500 over the ’96 peak — including 321 militia groups.



  1. expdoc

    Wrong word.

  2. Craig Knauss

    Correct word.

    Pavlov rang bell. Dog expected food. Dog salivated.

    Democrat in White House. Lunatics expect “tyranny”. Lunatics form militias.

    Pretty straightforward.

  3. Neftali

    President Obama stated that he hasn’t killed any US citizens on US soil with drones without due process, but he and Eric Holder continue to believe they have the right to do so if needed. I’d call that tyranny.

    Right now, Rand Paul is entering his 9th hour in a filibuster against this tyranny of Obama being drunk with power.


  4. Looks like they’re waiting for Red Dawn.

  5. shawnnews

    Local law enforcement guns down someone without due process and it’s some sort of heroic act. President wants the option to attack domestic terror cells it’s tyranny.
    The correct answer is that in the US everyone should be arrested and tried for their alleged crimes under law.
    Everyone who opposed the patriot act and torture knew the days would arrive when executives want to use the same powers internally that they use in Iraq.

  6. Rand Paul is a hypocrite. He’s concerned about drones but supports the coal industry which is responsible for thousands of deaths each year in the US.

  7. Expdoc

    Pavlovs dogs required many more than one bell ringing to generate the conditioned response.

    Wrong word.

  8. Neftali

    My favorite #standwithRand Tweets of the night (so far)…

    Rand asking Nobel Peace Prize winner if killing US citizens on US soil with drones without due process is acceptable” #StandWithRand

    “A Senator who quotes tweets, Shakespeare & George C. Scott in Patton is an ok fellow I could have a coffee with – #standwithrand @SenTedCruz”

    Rand Paul: “So you can murder anyone you want, anywhere, at any time?
    Barack Obama: Yeah, but I probably won’t

    “It’s so entertaining watch leftists defend government killing of Americans on US Soil. You have to wonder how painful it is to the old 60’s libs.”

    Will @BarackObama answer the call at 3am to be told @SenRandPaul is still filibustering? #StandWithRand

    Come on @SenTedCruz , end this with a resounding cry of “Wolverines!” #StandwithRand

    TwitchyTeam ‏@TwitchyTeam
    Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Matt Drudge #StandWithRand; Code Pink gets crafty

    Rand asking Nobel Peace Prize winner if killing US citizens on US soil with drones without due process is acceptable” #StandWithRand

    Sen. Mark Kirk had a stroke yet managed to make it to the floor and give Paul support. God bless you @SenatorKirk #StandWithRand

    Sen Mark Kirk just showed up with an apple and a thermos for Rand Paul
    11:34 PM – 06 Mar 13

    If @SenRandPaul doesn’t this with; “Rand Out!” followed by a *mic drop*, the whole thing is a fail. #StandWithRand #Filibuster

    I’ve been watching/listening for a little over 10 hours and #standwithrand Thank you @SenRandPaul for defending #Constitution

    at 11:17 pm Marco Rubio just quoted Jay-Z in his question to Rand Paul. Who says Republicans aren’t trendy?

    9 hours in and we have 70,000 #StandwithRand hash tags per hour.

    11 hours. No teleprompter, no phonebooks. @SenRandPaul doesn’t need them when he’s got Madison and Jefferson to go off of #StandWithRand

  9. Brian Opsahl

    Everytime Rand opens his mouth he should switch feet, from a guy who takes blog rumors to the Senate floor and ask a question of Chuck Hagel that was absolute BS hot off the rumor mill. This hillbilly from Kentucky is a disscrace to the Senate. So far he is willing to sell all of the middleclass down the road just to protect the Billionares money..Puke !!

  10. Neftali

    Brian – Liberals want to steal your money, confiscate your guns to prevent you from defending yourself, and finally they want to kill you without due process.

  11. danimal

    Brian- You are completely missing the point.
    Steverino- You sound like a damn dirty mindless hippie.
    Due process is our constitutional right. This should not be a Left vs. Right issue.

  12. I have absolutely no problem with the president using a drone to light a person or persons up if they are driving to a school, major city, etc. with terrorist intentions and ideals.

    Are you kidding me? Yes, due process is important. So is protecting millions of Americans. Sometimes they are not both possible, so which one do you think is more important?

  13. monkey

    Soooo. . . a rogue, possibly hijacked, plane is heading toward some big city and there’s no radio contact. Shoot it down? Don’t shoot it down? The drone issue is really misleading. I’m guessing most Americans would have been fine if fighters took out one of the jets on 9/11 and prevented the hit on the WTC. Drones are just different technology. No different than cops storming a house to kill the bad guys and save the hostages.

  14. danimal – You may wish to consult an ophthalmologist concerning your tunnel vision.

  15. Neftali

    monkey – Dick Durbin brought up a similar point late last night at the end of Rand Paul’s filibuster.

    The difference is if its a preemptive strike. No one is saying the President doesn’t have the right to shoot down a terrorist who is flying a plane into a building, or pointing a bazooka at the White House. But that’s not the question being raised.

    The question is if the US President can order a drone strike preemptively. Meaning, can he target a US citizen who is a suspected terrorist, who is hanging out in a coffee shop not causing any trouble, and order the killing of such person with a drone without regard to due process? Our Attorney General thinks he can, and its wrong. It goes too far.

    Shooting down terrorists who are not US citizens in a foreign country is one thing. Attacking US citizens without regard to the 5th Amendment is something else entirely.

    Sen. Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, stopped by the Senate floor Wednesday to help out Rand Paul with his filibuster, he spoke for several minutes in the guise of asking a question. But his remarks can really be boiled down to one powerful sentence:

    “Mr. President, what it comes down to is every American has the right to know when their government believes that it is allowed to kill them. ”


  16. danimal

    Steverino- My sense are just fine they also tell me that you should take a bath.

  17. Neftali

    Jon Stewart now stands with Rand Paul on the issue of drones attacking US citizens on US soil.


  18. Craig Knauss

    Read shawnnews’ comment again.

    The strikes would be little different than the SWAT team having to take out some punk who is threatening his hostages. It’s a “last resort” sort of thing, like when the police shot that hillbilly kidnapper who threatened to kill that little boy. How many of you righties complained about that?

    There is no plan to just send out drones with Hellfire missiles and blow up any American the government doesn’t like. Anyone who thinks that needs some serious psychological help.

  19. danimal: Cool it with that “take a bath” stuff. Understand?

  20. danimal

    Oh please Cunningham. Go berate someone else if they don’t fit your narrative, you can always fall to your standard of chastising their grammar or spelling. You are just another shill.

  21. Neftali

    Craig Knauss – If it was Bush claiming these rights, the left would be freaking out.

    But hey, there is no plan (yet), to kill Americans on US soil with drones. We can trust the President to follow the 5th Amendment whenever he chooses, right? In some situations he can follow it, sometimes he doesn’t have to, its all the same. Heck, we trust him so much, let’s just give him the authority to follow anything in the Constitution whenever he pleases.

  22. expdoc

    “If it was Bush claiming these rights, the left would be freaking out.”

    Neftali nails it.

  23. danimal: If you want to ignore my warning, go ahead. Then you’ll be gone.

  24. Poor Neftali and expdoc! They’re so blissfully unaware that lots of liberals are upset with Obama’s drone policy.

    And what do they have to say about the position taken by McCain, Graham, et al?

  25. Neftali

    If lots of liberals were upset about the drone policy, where were they last night? I counted only two, Ron Wyden from Oregon and our own Dick Durbin. There were almost 2 dozen GOP members. Mitch McConnell, Tim Scott, and John Thune were just a few that I saw. There was even some GOP House members that came over to the other chamber to support Rand. It was quite the event.

  26. Neftali: Do I really have to explain to you why most Democratic senators are disinclined to participate in the filibustering of President Obama’s choice for director of the CIA?

    Rand Paul’s filibuster was not the ideal vehicle for Democrats to express concern about Obama’s drone policy.

  27. Craig Knauss

    “Craig Knauss – If it was Bush claiming these rights, the left would be freaking out.”

    Maybe. Maybe not. Do you have any substantive proof? Or just pitiful speculation? Remember, Bush convinced many of the left that Saddam Hussein had WMD and we should attack Iraq.

    Like I said, how many of you righties complained about SWAT taking out that hillbilly kidnapper? You didn’t answer that, did you?

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