Easy prediction: If Rand Paul takes lawsuit against NSA to the Supreme Court, he’ll lose


The self-important uber-libertarian once again is PEDDLING NONSENSE:

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul took to Fox News Sunday to declare his legal opposition to the NSA’s surveillance programs. “I’m going to be seeing if I can challenge this at the Supreme Court level,” Paul said.

“I’m going to be asking all the internet providers and all of the phone companies: ask your customers to join me in a class action lawsuit,” Paul told host Chris Wallace. “If we get ten million Americans saying we don’t want our phone records looked at, then maybe someone will wake up and something will change in Washington.”

For starters, Paul is wrong if he thinks the Supreme Court will be swayed by a petition bearing 10 million signatures. That’s not the way the high court decides constitutional issues.

For another thing, numerous legal challenges have failed to result in any Supreme Court rulings against the National Security Agency’s surveillance programs.

Of course, Paul could be right if he thinks public pressure might persuade Congress to change laws regarding NSA snooping. But he shouldn’t count on the Supreme Court doing that job.



  1. Avery

    You’re right. Let’s do nothing.

  2. Maybe he hopes that 10 min sigatures stops the admin to use military and state secrets privilege -act to stop the case like it has done before.

  3. sciarra

    sign me up

  4. Steverino

    Just a stage performer playing to his audience of tin hats.

  5. Oinker

    No. Signatures won’t get the case heard. But I’m certain there will be many in that list with standing to sue. The outcome of the would-be case is moot, however. Because once a majority of informed citizens are outraged about the government surveillance machine poking through their business, it will either be stopped or there will be a revolution.

    And, Steverino, I’ll wear my “tin hat” (it’s supposed to be tin foil btw, to shield me from thought control) and salute the constitutionalist, Rand Paul as long as you acknowledge praying at the alter of Big Brother Obama as he delivers his sermon to the common-folk, “He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past; War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength; Thoughtcrime is illegal; Big Brother is watching; My administration will be the most transparent in history.”

  6. Bill Adkins

    The process by which the government obtains permission is suspect — and it was suspect in 2005 before FISA was made even more rubber as rubber stamps go when a federal judge panel permitted government to go ahead and surveil for three days before a warrant had to be granted or denied (and only about 4 had been denied out of tens of thousands) and then along came the War on Terror hysteria used to sell even more lax regulations. That said, this has already been legislated and reviewed — Rand Paul can grandstand on the issue, but the only real remedy is legislative and Rand has a record of zero accomplishment at getting anything passed. He’s been in office since 2011 — not ONE bill he proposed has passed — as a matter of fact, does anyone know of ANY bill he has proposed except as co-sponsor of existing legislation?

  7. What happened, was the 4th Amendment removed and replaced by a police state? Damn, I missed that.

  8. shin0bi272

    Well its good to know that Mr Cunningham is a communist. Of course he wont be rounded up by the FBI because as we saw back in the 50’s with McCarthy the government loves communists. So he would have us sit here and have everything we do monitored ala “1984” because of “security”… Didnt stop the Ft. Hood shooter and he WORKED IN THE GOVERNMENT!… people reported him to their superiors as trying to convert them to islam after they were sent to him for PTSD coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan. Nothing was done because the army is so PC they wanted to have a guy they could point to as a high ranking muslim. Then he kills 14 people and the jackass president calls it “workplace violence”. This program didnt stop the Boston bombing… and the russian government told us hey these guys went for terrorism training you need to watch them… we did NOTHING and people died. Yet its fine for them to watch whatever we do in your communist eyes. Gotta stop those pesky conservatives from voting right?

  9. Steverino

    Oinker – Get rid of your cell phone, TV, radio, computer and newspaper then head for the library. Problem solved.

  10. Steverino

    And one other thing Oinker don’t check the books out of the library just browse the stacks of the many literary classics.

  11. bendire

    I heard they are transferring a lot of IRS agents to NSA.
    Tbey aren’t afraid to do the job correctly.

    Until the new storage facillity is ready, all records are stored by the DNC. They got a great deal on the cost.

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