Posted by Pat Cunningham on Nov 13, 2013 in Uncategorized | 10 comments
Lawrence O’Donnell of MSNBC tells the truth about the individual mandate in Obamacare.
In the final analysis, the mandate isn’t really much of a mandate after all.
While Larry is waxing about how the “tea party” who is scaring people about the individual mandate, what I remember is Republicans warning that without an effective mandate the ACA will fail. You can’t wave exclusions for pre-existing conditions and have no mandate.
No mandate=Failure of the ACA.
As desired by the Democrats.
doc says: “As predicted.”
Typical loser statement. “See, I told you so!”
Losers always hope others fail. Makes them feel their own life isn’t so bad, after all.
In fact, that is the Republican modus operandi.
Still so bitter?
I just read that the President has decided to “fix” the current fiasco (generated by his lies) by offering to extend cancelled insurance plans for 1 year. Who knew he had such power?
Just because I predicted the ACA would fail doesn’t make me happy (or even smart). Believe me when I tell you, I am far from happy that the ACA is failing.
Real patients,my patients, are being negatively impacted and it sucks.
People are losing insurance, paying ever more for insurance which contains benefits they don’t need or want and losing access to services. Health care workers are losing their jobs and before you know it some hospitals will shut their doors.
The recent few weeks are only a minor tremor prior the major earthquake we are going to live through.
Seems to me that doc has always been the bitter one on this blog.
Then doc said: “Health care workers are losing their jobs”
Yeah, right, doc. That’s probably why health care workers have the best job prospects from now through 2020.
Time to stop riding your dark hobby horse. No matter what you would like us to think, the sky is not falling. Maybe in your Republican world it is, but not for the rest of us.
Ah tex, I’d venture a guess that there are several million people who either have lost/are losing the insurance that they were perfectly fine with because of Obamacare, and/or have found out they will pay several times more in premiums and deductibles for coverage that is worse than they had, who’d disagree with your remark. Your belief that this thing is good just goes to further show how out of touch with reality you are.
I haven’t seen my dark hobby horse lately Tex, did you steal it?
I don’t live in Republican world Tex. I live in the real world.
I am only telling you the truth. If you choose not to believe the truth that makes you just like the Commander in Chief.
Healthcare workers really are losing jobs. By the thousands.
You may not be able to keep your insurance if you like it.
You may have to find a new doctor even though you like your current doctor. These are all real world truths.
than1 – not quite. People won’t get less coverages under the ACA and pay more, they get more and better coverages but for more money, even if they don’t qualify for the ACA exchange based programs. The problem is I can’t afford the higher rates (even though its better coverage) if I don’t get those tax credits.
I’ve already been told by the ACA people they need more information to continue processing my application. They claimed they mailed a letter noting what more they need, but I’ve not received any letter to date.
I work in health care too and judging from the gorgeous facilities being built, the record profits by some of the “non-profits” and the strong job prospects because of aging boomers, expdoc must be working somewhere else. Obamacare ain’t the cause of private, for-profit insurance companies jacking their rates. They’ve been doing that for years ’cause they’re in the money-making business, not the health care business.
Health care in America is a mess, for sure, but the ACA isn’t the reason. It’s a train wreck and has been for a long time. We don’t do it better than the rest of the world, we spend way too much and get less and there are too many golden geese being protecting to alter the system w/o totally blowing it up.
I don’t understand why people don’t want to emulate the best health systems in the world. The affordable care act is a step in that direction in that everyone gets coverage. But how about just emulating the world’s best health care systems and doing what they do?
In fact, it shouldn’t be a radical idea to emulate and replicate the successful actions of another business or governing model. The real controversy occurs when people start realizing they will be moved off the thrones they think they occupy.
Where were people like Ihearitnow when 40 million people didn’t have insurance, or were dropped because of pre-existing conditions? Or worse yet forced into bankruptcy from illness. Would they like to return to that system. Probably call themselves Christians,too.
Doc says: “You may have to find a new doctor”
Nothing new there.People on Medicare Advantage plans have to find a new doctor if their insurance company pulls a switch on them. Or if their doctor drops out of the plan, or if they want to change insurance providers. Which they can do every year.
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