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Senate Democrats block resolution honoring Lady Margaret Thatcher

The left continually remark about the lack of compassion from those on the right, but Senate Democrats blocking a resolution to honor Margaret Thatcher, who tackled communism and rank socialism in Britain, bringing it back from the brink of bankruptcy, are petty and fearful of the depth of their union support.

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One would naturally think it impossible that anyone would hesitate – even for an instant – to honor the woman who tackled communism head on as prime minister of Great Britain.

Lady Margaret Thatcher was a principled politician who helped to foster the special relationship between Great Britain and the United States that we all benefit from today.

To refuse to honor a woman of such great historical and political significance, who was deeply loyal to the United States, is petty and shameful.  One truly has to wonder, what is it about Lady Thatcher that gives them pause?  Her unfaltering commitment to freedom?  Or perhaps the way she fought for individual liberty and limited government?

Senate Democrats fear their labor support in the upcoming 2014 elections and truely deserve the “Waging War on Women” mantle to be placed squarely on their shoulders!

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  1. If conservatives attacked a deceased Liberal politician with the same level of vile commentary and actions as have been used against Lady Margaret Thatcher, the headlines would scream about the “mean-spirited”, “disgusting”, and “stupid” conservatives. But, for some reason, no such condemnation of the Leftist hate-mongers appears in the Lamestream media. I wonder why….?

  2. Just a rumor from the Heretic Foundation so don’t let your paranoia get the best of you Ted.

    Since all the living US presidents have been invited to her funeral will GW show up? He might get arrested.

  3. NAVYFLYER09

    Ted, are you shocked that the ‘compassionate” party would do something like that?

    If she were a supporter of Clinton or Obama, she would have received a medal of honor from the dems. However, she was a supporter of Ronald Reagan. She’s lucky the dems even know that she is dead.

  4. Adam Faber

    Ted, do you have any other sources for this piece of “news” other than this link to the Heritage Foundation? That is from two days ago, and still no actual news story has appeared on any other site.

  5. Adam Faber

    “Adam, the left wing national media are not going to report something that places the Senate Democarts in a bad light…ever. So why would they report it?”

    Ted, are you saying that you believe everything from conservative organizations even if it cannot be substantiated in any way?

    I would think that if an article is from a clearly partisan source and cannot be verified in some way that one ought to be more cynical of that piece.

    • Ted Biondo

      Adam, Liberals censor news items by omission. Colleges and schools do it also. If they don’t print it, it doesn’t exist. It happens all the time.

  6. Agreed. It’s beneath contempt for any Senator or small group of Senators from blocking any vote on political grounds. If you oppose a bill or a resolution, have the guts to vote against it. I’m sure Mr. Biondo agrees, without exception. Don’t you, Ted?

    • Ted Biondo

      Yes Terry and you will note that Harry Reid refused to comment when asked by the press on the issue of blocking the resolution – why would he do that if there was no problem?

  7. Adam Faber

    That references the Heritage Foundation again, Terry. A single partisan source, and Ted treats it as fact.

  8. Adam Faber

    Ted, you really need to find some other source for this if you want anyone to believe it. It’s been two days since this supposedly happened and no other outlet has anything.

    • Ted Biondo

      Adam, I don’t have to do anything, if I choose in a free society to do something else, right?

  9. Adam Faber

    Ted, so, you are therefore conceding the point that you believe anything you agree with no matter how untruthful it may be? I’d like it to be a warm Wednesday as well, but I know better.

  10. Adam,

    Good enough?

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/04/dems_block_senate_resolution_honoring_thatcher.html

    Ted,

    Are you asking me to rationally explain a Harry Reid action?

    • Ted Biondo

      Sorry Terry, I should know better than to ask anyone to explain any action by Harry Reid!

  11. Having Pinochet over for high tea was very Iron Lady like.

  12. Adam Faber

    Terry, are you serious? That link you provided cites the same source at the Heritage Foundation. How can you not understand that this all goes back to one single, unverified source? Are you just not paying attention to sources?

  13. Adam,

    You still haven’t answered the real question – is the story true or false?

    http://beforeitsnews.com/tea-party/2013/04/senate-dems-block-resolution-honoring-margaret-thatcher-2486074.html Is there a heritage reference in here also?

  14. H.Res.141 passed in the House. H.Res. denotes a simple resolution, one exclusive to that chamber. I found nothing in the Congressional Record that suggests a corresponding resolution was introduced in the Senate. Can’t put a hold on legislation that was not introduced…..

    Why just a single media outlet, and why an anonymous “well-placed source” and not the author of the resolution?

    • Ted Biondo

      Can’t pass a resolution that doesn’t come to the floor either. It wouldn’t be the first time Harry held something stopping it from coming to the floor of the Senate, now would it? He also refused to answer any questions about it, didn’t he? Why?

  15. So, a member of the Senate drafts the resolution, Reid refuses to place it on the legislative agenda, and the _only_ statement on the issue comes from an anonymous source… *chuckle*

    John Thune and John Cornyn refused to answer any questions about it. Why?

  16. Adam Faber

    Terry, did you actually read that piece? Yes, it links back to heritageaction.com as the source for that story. As it comes from a single source and cannot be verified in any other way, it casts the credibility of that story in serious doubt. But never mind, you’ll find a handful of people who want it to be true so, poof, it will magically be true in your mind.

    • Ted Biondo

      Hey Adam, has a resolution for Lady Margaret Thatcher been forthcoming from the Senate? If not, why not? Most other bodies throughout the world, including the House have done so – what’s the hold up, – a block by the Senate leaders?

  17. Adam Faber

    “Hey Adam, has a resolution for Lady Margaret Thatcher been forthcoming from the Senate? If not, why not?”

    That is an excellent question, and it’s one that is not answered by promulgating information that cannot be verified.

    • Ted Biondo

      If there is no resolution and everybody has theirs out there, don’t you think it’s being held up by someone in the Senate???

  18. Adam,

    Show me where the Heritage reference is.

  19. Adam Faber

    Terry: first paragraph, the text “The Iron Lady” links to the same article at heritageaction.com that Ted linked to and then the second and third paragraphs are directly copied from the Heritage article.

    Ted: then find out who’s holding it up in the Senate and talk about that instead of wildly speculating about that which you do not know. Are you just that desperate to be angry with Democrats?

  20. Adam Faber

    More unnamed sources, Terry. How about we discuss it when we actually know what’s going on? Until then, it’s all just conjecture — Ted’s specialty.

  21. NAVYFLYER09

    Adam,

    Hate to do this to you, but no less than the Wall Street Journal has the below article with statements from many U.S. political leaders, including all presidents. It also includes the political leaders from both the House and the Senate … well not quite from both parties. It appears that one party is dreadfully silent. No Pelousy, No Reid, No Schumer, No Durbin. No House or Senate democrats at all.

    Of course, it may just be that far right wing WSJ, probabably the most respected newspaper in the world.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/04/08/reactions-britains-margaret-thatcher-dies/

    I’ll save you the time of grabbing the link. Here is the article:

    “The world has lost one of the great champions of freedom and liberty, and America has lost a true friend,” President Barack Obama said in a statement.

    Here is a roundup of statements from Mr. Obama and other U.S. political leaders. You can see a roundup of U.K. and world-wide reaction here:

    President Barack Obama: “With the passing of Baroness Margaret Thatcher, the world has lost one of the great champions of freedom and liberty, and America has lost a true friend. As a grocer’s daughter who rose to become Britain’s first female prime minister, she stands as an example to our daughters that there is no glass ceiling that can’t be shattered. As prime minister, she helped restore the confidence and pride that has always been the hallmark of Britain at its best. And as an unapologetic supporter of our transatlantic alliance, she knew that with strength and resolve we could win the Cold War and extend freedom’s promise.

    “Here in America, many of us will never forget her standing shoulder to shoulder with President Reagan, reminding the world that we are not simply carried along by the currents of history — we can shape them with moral conviction, unyielding courage and iron will. Michelle and I send our thoughts to the Thatcher family and all the British people as we carry on the work to which she dedicated her life—free peoples standing together, determined to write our own destiny.”

    Vice President Joe Biden: “Today, Great Britain lost a leader with a strong will and strong convictions, and the United States lost a stalwart friend. I had the privilege of being in Margaret Thatcher’s company numerous times when she was Prime Minister, and she was always forthright in her views and undaunted in her commitment to advancing her nation’s interests. I’m glad I had the chance to know her, and today the Thatcher family is in my thoughts and prayers.”

    Former President George W. Bush: ”Laura and I are saddened by the death of Baroness Margaret Thatcher. She was an inspirational leader who stood on principle and guided her nation with confidence and clarity. Prime Minister Thatcher is a great example of strength and character, and a great ally who strengthened the special relationship between the United Kingdom and the United States. Laura and I join the people of Great Britain in remembering the life and leadership of this strong woman and friend.”

    Former President Bill Clinton: “I was saddened to learn of the death of Lady Margaret Thatcher. The United Kingdom has lost its first woman Prime Minister, an iconic stateswoman, and a fearless leader. The United States has lost one of its dearest friends and most valued allies.

    “Lady Thatcher understood that the special relationship which has long united our two nations is an indispensable foundation for peace and prosperity. Our strong partnership today is part of her legacy. Like so many others, I respected the conviction and self-determination she displayed throughout her remarkable life as she broke barriers, defied expectations, and led her country. Hillary, Chelsea, and I extend our condolences to her family and to the people of the United Kingdom.”

    Former President George H.W. Bush: “Barbara and I were deeply saddened to learn of Baroness Thatcher’s passing, and extend our heartfelt condolences to her children and loved ones. Margaret was, to be sure, one of the 20th Century’s fiercest advocates of freedom and free markets — a leader of rare character who carried high the banner of her convictions, and whose principles in the end helped shape a better, freer world. The personal grief we Bushes feel is compounded by the knowledge that America has lost one of the staunchest allies we have ever known; and yet we have confidence that her sterling record of accomplishment will inspire future generations. May God bless the memory of Margaret Thatcher.”

    Former First Lady Nancy Reagan: “I am terribly saddened today to learn of the death of Margaret Thatcher. The world has lost a true champion of freedom and democracy.

    “It is well known that my husband and Lady Thatcher enjoyed a very special relationship as leaders of their respective countries during one of the most difficult and pivotal periods in modern history. Ronnie and Margaret were political soul mates, committed to freedom and resolved to end Communism. As Prime Minister, Margaret had the clear vision and strong determination to stand up for her beliefs at a time when so many were afraid to “rock the boat.” As a result, she helped to bring about the collapse of the Soviet Union and the liberation of millions of people.

    “Ronnie and I knew her as a dear and trusted friend, and I will miss her. The United States knew Margaret as a spirited and courageous ally, and the world owes her a debt of gratitude.

    “My heart goes out to Mark, Carol and the entire Thatcher family.”

    Former President Jimmy Carter: “Rosalynn and I are deeply saddened to learn of the death of Margaret Thatcher. A principled leader, she was a strong ally for peace and human rights during my presidency. As prime minister, her government was in the forefront of those who stood with the United States on key concerns, including the need for the SALT treaty, a stronger NATO alliance, majority rule in Zimbabwe-Rhodesia, and efforts to bring the Iran hostages home peacefully. We extend our condolences to her family and the people of Great Britain on their loss.”

    House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio): “The greatest peacetime prime minister in British history is dead. Margaret Thatcher, a grocer’s daughter, stared down elites, union bosses, and communists to win three consecutive elections, establish conservative principles in Western Europe, and bring down the Iron Curtain. There was no secret to her values – hard work and personal responsibility – and no nonsense at all in her leadership. She once said, ‘Defeat? I do not recognize the meaning of the word.’

    “Now this lady who was never for turning goes to rest as grateful friends and allies around the world mourn her passing and pray for her loved ones. Americans will always keep Lady Thatcher in our hearts for her loyalty to Ronald Reagan and their friendship that we all admired. At this difficult hour, I send the condolences of the U.S. House of Representatives to Prime Minister Cameron and the British people.”

    Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.): ”Americans and all freedom-loving people around the world mourn the passing today of The Iron Lady, Margaret Thatcher. A shopkeeper’s daughter from Lincolnshire, Margaret Thatcher rose through the force of her will and the power of her arguments to become the first and only female Prime Minister Great Britain has ever had. Undaunted by the tremendous personal and political obstacles that stood in her path at nearly every turn, including an attempt on her life, Thatcher reshaped Britain from the state of economic and social turmoil in which she found it to a place of opportunity and promise during three terms in office.

    “She boldly reasserted her nation’s strength in foreign affairs, and she became an iconic symbol of the transformative power of conservative ideas. A great ally and admirer of the United States and a trusted partner of Ronald Reagan during some of the most challenging days of the Cold War, Margaret Thatcher never hesitated to remind Americans of their own obligations to the cause of freedom and of the need for political courage and confidence in the face of long odds. A towering figure of 20th century politics and an inspiration to millions around the globe, Margaret Thatcher set a standard of leadership that will be hard to replicate, but which will forever stand as a model for those who wish to change society for the better.”

    Donald Rumsfeld, former U.S. Secretary of Defense, via @RumsfeldOffice: ”Margaret #Thatcher was known as the Iron Lady. I can personally attest that I’ve never met a leader with more steel. Rest in Peace.”

    Former Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R., Texas): “Margaret Thatcher was one of the great world leaders of the last half of the 20th century. She loved the U.S. and visited here many times, marveling at our entrepreneurship and free enterprise. The U.S. had no greater ally than Margaret Thatcher.”

    Newt Gingrich, former House Speaker, via @newtgingrich: “Margaret Thatcher, Pope John Paul and Ronald Reagan changed history. The world would be a much different place without them.”

    Sen. Marco Rubio (R., Fla.): “I join Margaret Thatcher’s family and the British people in mourning the loss of one of the 20th century’s most consequential leaders. From a young age, Margaret Thatcher understood what limited government and free enterprise could do for people and helped modernize Great Britain’s economy. Her passion for freedom and in advocating for the dignity of people trapped behind communism’s Iron Curtain helped bring about the Soviet Union’s end.

    “As someone who grew up in the Ronald Reagan era, I admired the special bond he had with Margaret Thatcher. Through her work with Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher helped deepen and solidify the special relationship between our two countries, which continues to benefit both nations to this day.”

    Sen. Deb Fischer (R., Neb.): “The Iron Lady’s legacy of unflinching boldness in confronting economic doldrums at home and pervasive communism abroad stands as a gold standard for all elected leaders seeking the political courage to make difficult decisions.”

    Rep. Kevin Brady (R., Texas), Chairman of the Joint Economic Committee: “Mrs. Thatcher, as she liked to be called, brought Britain back from the brink of financial ruin. … She demonstrated for all to see how, together, a sound currency and policies that spur economic growth can restore prosperity to a great nation.”

    Sen. David Vitter (R., La.): “Thatcher was a remarkable woman who turned an entire nation on the brink of total economic collapse into one of the financial capitals of the world at the time. Her method: lower taxes, less government spending and empowering free markets. Her legacy certainly lives on w/ me and many, many other conservatives.”

    Rep. Tom Cole (R. Okla.): ”Margaret Thatcher first came to my attention when I was a student living in London in the 1970s. One of my best British friends served as her private parliamentary secretary and several others served as Conservative Members of Parliament during her extraordinary career. My own political career began as she became prime minister and I looked upon her as a role model and trailblazer. Indeed to this day, I keep a picture of her and Ronald Reagan on my desk in my congressional office.”

    “The partnership between Thatcher and Reagan was comparable to that between Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt. The latter helped to win the Second World War while Thatcher and Reagan did the same in the Cold War. Thatcher’s career holds many lessons for us all. She showed the power of conviction and courage in the political arena, and she reminds us that when leaders lead, great goals can be accomplished in public life.”

    Gov. Nikki Haley (R., S.C.): “I was saddened by the news this morning of the passing of a personal inspiration and hero, Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. In her momentous times, she left an enormous mark on her country and the world, reversing Great Britain’s path toward socialism and labor union domination, and helping to defeat international communism. The daughter of a grocer, Margaret Thatcher broke numerous barriers of class and gender, just by being who she was. Her determination and achievements will make her a towering historical figure for generations to come.”

    Sen. Orrin Hatch (R., Utah): ”Margaret Thatcher was a transcendent figure who made the world a better place.”

    “From taking down the Iron Curtain to driving Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait and back to Iraq, Margaret Thatcher was the strongest ally America could ask for during uncertain times for both of our countries. She liberated Britain’s economy with conservative reforms that built a foundation for economic success that has lasted to this day.”

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.): “Margaret Thatcher was one of the great role models in the history of the conservative movement. Her foreign policy was clear eyed and firm. She, along with Ronald Reagan and Pope John Paul II stood up to communism, the great evil of their time, with an uncompromising conviction. They understood the ideology was evil and restricted the better nature of mankind.

    “Domestically, she took Great Britain off the path to socialism and unleashed the power of the British people. Her belief in the power of the individual over the false security of reliance on government control inspires to this day.”

  22. Adam Faber

    Navyflyer, that article cites praise for Ms. Thatcher, but it does not back up Ted’s assertion that Senate Democrats are blocking a resolution. Indeed, that entire article you pasted in here says not one thing about that and is irrelevant to this discussion.

  23. NAVYFLYER09

    Really Adam,

    Not one dem praises her and you don’t think there is a correlation?

    Their silence is deafening. Political silence is unheard of out of all politicians. However, when a politician does not want to anger his or her base, it speaks volumes.

    It is not relevant to the discussion only becuase you can not either accept it or can’t make the political correlation. I believe that you are smart enough to see the political correlation. Consequently, it must be that you cannot politically accept the fact that the dems refuse to recognize her accomplishments because to do so would be to either directly or indirectly praise Ronald Reagan. And OMG, they cannot do that!

  24. Adam Faber

    “Not one dem praises her and you don’t think there is a correlation?”

    Except for — in your list alone — Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. Even if you had found a list without any Democrats in it, it would still not confirm Ted’s unverifiable assertion that Senate Democrats are blocking a resolution. Nice try, though.

    • Ted Biondo

      Has anyone seen an official resolution from the U.S. Senate concerning Margaret Thatcher’s passing. If No, then I rest my case. Even if a Senate resolution comes now, it was obviously blocked for some reason.

      Here’s another source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3008276/posts

      It names some names as to who is responsible and why.

  25. Adam Faber

    Ted, your reasoning is flawed.

    “Has anyone seen an official resolution from the U.S. Senate. No.”

    That is correct. The Senate has not passed a resolution honoring Ms. Thatcher.

    “I rest my case.”

    Your “case” was that the “Senate Democrats block resolution honoring Lady Margaret Thatcher”. Just because you have demonstrated that the Senate has not passed a resolution is not proof that the Senate Democrats blocked a resolution. It’s purely unsubstantiated conjecture on your part that that is the reason the Senate has not passed a resolution, but there is not currently any evidence to support that. Evidence may emerge but, as it stands now, there is no actual evidence to support your position. Your argumentum ad ignorantiam has failed.

    I find it striking that you are so desperate to blame Democrats for anything that you make fallacious arguments and expect others to accept your fallacy. Regardless of the position, it’s an underhanded, dishonest technique.

    • Ted Biondo

      From Adam – “Just because you have demonstrated that the Senate has not passed a resolution is not proof that the Senate Democrats blocked a resolution.”

      With the logic and deductive reasoning that you have demonstrated thus far on this issue, Adam, I’m sure glad your on the other side of most issues.

      If a resolution is forthcoming from the Senate on Lady Thatcher within the next fortnight, as they say, would you please point it out to me so I can change my mind of the pettiness I see from the liberal, always compassionate Democratic Senators, while all about them have given their recognition to the former prime minister by now. Thanks.

  26. Adam Faber

    Ted, what are you talking about? You are trying to use a lack of a resolution as proof that Democrats are blocking a resolution that doesn’t appear to exist. Your argument is fallacious and repetition isn’t going to change that.

  27. Brian Opsahl

    Sure whould be nice if those same Republicans cared this much about the U S A.
    Blocking the vote on getting jobs for returning Veterans from combat….Republicans
    Blocking the Americans job act….Republicans
    Blocking the gun background checks that some 90% of Americans want….Republicans
    Blocking anything this President proposes even items formally favored By Republicans……Republicans

    Sound familliar Ted,

    Some day the republicans will be back in power and when that happens it is my hope the Democrats simply treat these guys exactly the same. Agree to nothing, block everything never give them anything even if the rest of the Country wants it..!!

  28. Brian,

    There were 20 job bills sitting in Harry Reid’s inbox that were passed by the House in 2012 – he did nothing.

    Let the dems do that – we can starve the beast.

  29. NAVYFLYER09

    Adam,

    Tell me did you cherry pick the words from my statement, or parse the words, or just plain out ignore the words in my statement to try to prove your point.

    In my previous post regarding the WSJ article I specifically stated: ” … Wall Street Journal has the below article with statements from many U.S. political leaders, including all presidents.”

    Now what part of that does not include Carter, Clinton and Obama? Unless of course, you are making the statement that the three are not included in “all presidents.” I wish they weren’t, but they are.

    And since when have Reid, Durbin, Schumer and Pelousy ever shied away from a microphone But you ignored that too.

    Nice try though in lying about what I wrote to try to prove your point. Sounds like you have a future in the democratic party.

  30. Adam Faber

    Navyflyer, your initial post included quotes of politicians of both parties praising Ms. Thatcher and then your next post said that “[n]ot one dem praises her.” You contradicted yourself, but it is not germane to this conversation so I did not make an issue of that oversight.

    You are making a fallacious argument. You have pointed out that “Reid, Durbin, Schumer and Pelousy [sic]” have not been vocal advocates of a resolution honoring Ms. Thatcher. While that is true, that is not proof that Senate Democrats are blocking any resolution. Again, it is striking how willing you and Ted are to believe in something that you cannot support with any supporting evidence.

    • Ted Biondo

      Well, it looks like the Seante passed the Margaret Thatcher Resolution yesterday that they have “allegedly” blocked, at least before the Lady’s funeral today, according to FOX news. Is “alledgedly” Ok for the more liberal among you?

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/16/senate-passes-thatcher-resolution-after-alleged-dem-efforts-to-water-it-down/

      Thank God the Senate did something to prevent embarrassment for the U.S. and it looks like the Republicans at least succeeded in not watering it down for the Deocrats to satisfy their union support! Here are some excerpts:

      “A Senate Republican aide told Fox News that Democrats had been trying to take language out of the original version. But Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell called up the Republican version on Tuesday anyway, effectively daring Democrats to oppose it.

      The resolution honoring the late British prime minister, who died last week, passed by unanimous consent, meaning nobody objected. The vote follows reports that Democrats were holding up the measure behind the scenes, though the House passed a resolution honoring Thatcher shortly after her death.

      McConnell, in a statement, referenced efforts to water down the resolution. Thatcher, a staunch ally of former President Ronald Reagan, was controversial among Democrats in the U.S. for her efforts to roll back the state in Britain, take on the unions and take other steps she touted as a means to invigorate the economy.”

  31. Brian Opsahl

    Terry,So what about those Veterans…are we ignoring them or blocking them…ask your Republicans what is so important that they would block a bill like that.

    Answer the question asked….why do they block things they even supported at one time but then the President gets behind it and suddenly they no longer support. Over and over and over. How anti American is that…!!

  32. Brian Opsahl

    Yea Ted, You cry about this and not one word when it comes to Repbulicans blocking the Veterans job bill,and just a little reminder Ted,Mrs. Thatcher is not one of our own is she.

    Republicans really love to push wars, but helping those who fight them…well were more worried about what the Senate might say about an dead ex-head of State….really Ted..!!

    Where the hell are your prioritys….Britain or The good old U S A…

  33. Adam Faber

    Thanks for the follow-up Ted. You ask “Is ‘allegedly’ Ok for the more liberal among you?” This question reveals a problem: should simple factual accuracy really be a partisan issue? I think that it should not. An understanding of the facts is the basis for a rational, productive, logical dialogue — and that is missing in our current political climate.

    Look at the matter here: the Heritage Foundation, a partisan think tank, pumped out an inflammatory story that cited only unnamed, anonymous sources and you and other bloggers fell for it and promulgated this propaganda as if it were fact backed up by verifiable information. Don’t you think that it’s dangerous to be that gullible that you don’t look into the credibility of the information you publish. I know, I know, “[you] don’t have to do anything, if [you] choose in a free society to do something else…”, but is this really the type of service you believe your readers and constituents deserve?

    • Ted Biondo

      The Senate Democrats delayed their resolution until the day before the woman is buried. That’s all I need to say.

  34. Brian Opsahl

    Useing Fox or the Heritage group and you want to be taken seriously as a fact guy….yea good luck with that..?

    • Ted Biondo

      Brian you use CNN, CBS ABC and NBC and MSNBC and you want to be taken seriously?

  35. NAVYFLYER09

    Adam,

    This is like shooting fish in a barrel. Hope the pun doesn’t offend any left-wing nuts who want to take away guns.

    Follow the string of my posts. I gave credit to ALL presidents. Then I proceeed to show not one democratic member of congress offered one word of praise to Thatcher. I then follow with more responses to your comments by not stating words to the effect of “not one dem.”

    Obviously by the string of my psots, I am referring to members of Congress. I presume you are intelligent enough to realize that and are just grapsing at straws to contradict my facts.

    Yes, today finally, the US Senate passed a resolution honoring Thatcher despite objections by the likes of the “woman honoring” Menendez from NJ.

    But the point still is that it took them ver one week and just hours before her funeral to pass a resolution. Why? Because nothing comes to the floor for a vote unless the Senate Leader says it can come to the floor for a vote. Reid is the senate leader. So use your superior intelligence and explain why it did not come to a vote until just befoe her funeral.

  36. Brian Opsahl

    I dont use CNN …actully yes Ted, here’s why.

    The twist that Fox spins nightly is so easy to see through,and all that lying they did during the election on polling and polls in general. example…when un-employment numbers for GW Bush came out on the good side they will highlight that on a show…big news” When those exact same good numbers were reported during this last election….guess what they report….that those reported numbers are now somehow tainted (without a shred of evidence mind you) Fox plays this game almost every broadcast always slanting to the edge of truth.

    Now compare most of all the rest of news reports and not one of them come close to the lies being spred by Fox,and thing is Ted I know your smart enough to know this but you just ignore it.

  37. Adam Faber

    Navyflyer: You contradicted your own statement but it’s still not germane to the issue of what the Senate did or did not do. You could easily have said that you were referring to congressional Democrats but that still would have been wrong since many House and Senate Democrats praised Thatcher. Just because you found an article that did not include those quotes is not proof that no congressional Democrat praised her; indeed, those quotes are cited in many other articles from the same time. Regardless, it’s still irrelevant.

    Ted: “The Senate Democrats delayed their resolution until the day before the woman is buried. That’s all I need to say.”

    I suspect that’s all you want to say since you attempted to pass off a bit of anonymous and unverifiable gossip as fact and you refuse to be accountable for that irresponsible action. Is this really the type of service you believe your readers and constituents deserve? Partisan gossip?

  38. Brian,

    Show me the bill on veterans, not familar with it. What amendments are attached to it?

  39. NAVYFLYER09

    Adam,

    I, nor does anyone else, repost all of their previous comments. I assume that most people posting here, including you, are intelligent enough to follow the thread of posts upon which they are commenting.

    And it just wasn’t any article. It was the esteemed WSJ which posted quotes from ALL living presidents — both parties — and Joe Biden and republican House and Senate members. But not one democrat from the House or Senate. Now I’m sure that had one democrat made a comment, they would have posted it. So you are mistaken.

    You specify that many democrats, both House and Senate, praised Thatcher. Yet, you fail to give any examples. Can you give any examples, except for those who may have spoke when the democraticaly lead Senate finally passed a resolution praising her?

    Ted, is correct. Why would the Senate wait until jsut a few hours before she is buried to pass such a resolution. It’s like being at work and praising someone for their performance but waiting unti leveryone else in the room has already done it. It really doesn’t hold much water.

  40. Adam Faber

    Navyflyer, you initially posted a story where Democrats praised Thatcher and then in your next post you said “Not one dem praises her”. That directly contradicted your prior post. If you intended to say that you meant that not one currently-serving congressional Democrat praised her you could have just said that that’s what you meant and we could have moved on. Instead, you keep repeating that I somehow should have known what you meant to say but did not. But it’s irrelevant for two reasons.

    First, that would still be plain wrong because congressional Democrats have, indeed, praised Thatcher. A ten-second Google search revealed that Rep. Pelosi said “She possessed a singular resilience that commanded the respect of her colleagues, the attention of a nation and the awe of women and men across the world. She led her country with poise, grace and an unmistakable iron will that will forever stand as a true testament to her unwavering commitment to public service.” Sen. Shaheen tweeted: “Paying tribute today to British PM Margaret Thatcher – a great friend to United States & inspirational figure for women in government.” (Links below.) These are from April 8 — the same day as the Journal article you cited. Is Google broken at your house?

    Second, you assert that the fact that one newspaper did not report something is proof that it did not happen. That is an illogical inference. I had a very nice dinner last night; the Wall Street Journal did not publish that, but that is not therefore proof that I had a lousy meal. Similarly, just because the Journal did not publish something cannot stand as proof that it did not happen. You cannot win arguments when yours are fallacious.

    Now that we know the facts about why the Senate was slow to act we could discuss that. But, instead of discussing the facts when they became known, Ted preferred to post unsubstantiated rumors and his only excuse was that he can do whatever he wants in a “free society”. That is true, but he cannot escape judgment and condemnation for that in a free society.

    Sources cited:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-conservatives-mourn-praise-thatcher-20130408,0,7697619.story

    http://redalertpolitics.com/2013/04/08/members-of-congress-tweet-thoughts-on-thatchers-passing/

  41. Brian Opsahl

    Terry the bill was back in October it was voted down by Republicans. Ron Paul said that if there were no offsetting cuts to something else he whould not vote the 1 billion dollar bill to help our returning Veterans find jobs faster….I watched they debate with total discscust and no im not providing a link…it happened, look it up if you wish,you will find im right..!!

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