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Quinn creates nonstandard Concealed Carry throughout Illinois

According to Joe Sosnowski’s July 02, 2013 eNewsletter, Quinn is using his amendatory veto power to unilaterally change many portions of HB183, the Concealed Carry bill passed by a veto-proof majority vote of both houses of the General Assembly.

The governor’s language will create a patchwork of different regulations and overly restrictive laws that will only obstruct law abiding citizens’ second amendment rights – the Chicago way!

The governor is changing these portions of the law:

Illinois must keep guns out of any establishment where alcohol is sold and consumed.

Home rule cities can regulate handguns and ammunition, licensing, possession, registration and transportation as it sees fit and changes the uniformity of concealed carry across the state, with cities each having their own rules, such as Chicago not allowing AR15 assault rifles, for example, laws that are in violation of the Seventh Circuit’s opinion.

As a matter of property rights, the governor feels that the legal presumption should always be that a person is not allowed to carry a concealed, loaded gun onto the premises versus displaying a sign that says no guns allowed.

Because workplace violence is a frequent workplace fatality, employers must have a right to forbid guns – they do – put up a sign.

Quinn also thinks that if Illinois is going to legalize concealed carry that the license should limit an individual to carry one gun and one ammunition clip that can hold no more than 10 rounds of ammunition and that the NRA is responsible for many items in this bill.

Quinn is also demanding more clarification to the notification process to ensure enhancements to mental health reporting to prevent guns from falling into the wrong hands – the bill provides ample checks in this area.

The governor thinks that concealed means concealed and doesn’t want Illinoisans walking around in public with guns exposed.

And the governor wants to change reporting that an individual carrying a concealed weapon immediately disclose concealment of a firearm to an officer, without a request of the officer.

Even though this last veto paragraph might be considered, to override the amendatory veto the General Assembly must accept or reject the entire package.

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23 Comments

  1. Juice

    He really works hard to keep Chicago the murder capital of the USA. Would love to see the judge flush this.

  2. Brian Opsahl

    Murder is down in Chicago…actully

    Quinn needs to go…

  3. Juice

    Quinn holds a news conference, is flanked by people who lost children to gun violence and claims the legislators were forced by the NRA to pass it. Is he really that stupid??? . A lot of democrats voted for the bill and wouldn’t listen for one second to the NRA. How many of the shooters of those children were NRA members? NONE. How many are career criminals and gang bangers? ALL of them. Tell your people not doing their jobs to step it up and leave the honest citizens alone. Put the resources into useful traffic stops and stings in the bad areas of the cities, not silly seatbelt checks at 5 in the afternoon.

  4. Juice

    Maybe they are running out of people to shoot.

  5. JRM_CommonSense

    Since the bill was passed with a veto proof majority, what is the problem? Quinn is known for his preening and prancing in attempting to look like a realistic politician. He’s just in campaign mode like most other politicians are all the time. Just override the veto and let’s get on with it. I am ready to carry my gun and let God sort it out.

  6. Brian Opsahl

    Notice also that he has armed guards standing on his side…hypocrite

  7. All politics. Although the ISRA believes this is an attack on law abiding gun owners, I tend to believe that Quinn is pandering to his Anti-gun base. Notice all the anti-gun extremists he surrounded himself with at the photo-op. He even had that nut job Father Pfleger at his side.

    Yes, 2014 is just around the corner. Given the results of the last election, It appears that Quinn is ceding the rest of the state to whoever runs against him, and trying to lock-down suburban Chicago and Saint Louis.

  8. snuss

    Just wondering, if the veto isn’t overturned by the Federal July 9th deadline, will the Feds say “You had your chance, and you blew it”, and initiate their own remedy?

    Quinn continues to be the worst Governor in the Country. See below:

    Governor Pat Quinn now owns the mantle of most unpopular governor in the country. Yes, more disliked than Scott Walker and Rick Perry and Jerry Brown, according to a new poll from Public Policy Polling.

    The PPP poll confirms that Quinn’s approval rating is just 25-percent. The poll was conducted between November 26-28 and sampled 500 Illinois voters.

    Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Illinois-Governor-Pat-Quinn-Most-Unpopular-in-the-United-States-181453281.html#ixzz2XzJ1XGKv

    Is it too late to get Blagojevich back? At least he had some entertainment value.

    • Ted Biondo

      You may be correct on the July 9th date, that the Feds may simply order a full-up concealed carry and the state law will just be overridden – shows the concern that our governor has about the citizens.

  9. Brian Opsahl

    Blago and Ryan can spoon together into to the sunset…
    Nuss, if nothing is done by the 9th I believe it goes’ into effect no matter what at that point..

  10. Brian Opsahl

    I was wrong it goes’ to a constitutional carry…if nothing by the 9th..
    But it will be overriden…im sure of that

  11. Milton Waddams

    Murder capital of the US? Chicago isn’t even in the top ten.

  12. Juice

    Murders per capita, you are correct. Ranked second behind NY, 515 to 431, in 2011. Chicago had 530(?) last year. Couldn’t find data for rest of country for 2012.

  13. Jerry Dangelo

    Quinn lost his re-election hopes a long time ago. This action just puts the nail in the coffin as they say.

  14. Craig Knauss

    Juice,

    First off it was 503 or 506 murders, not 530.

    Why don’t you look at the real murder statistics? Who cares what the total is. Chicago has more people than some states. Look and see how many murders in Louisiana or Texas for example. You’re several times more likely to get murdered in New Orleans, which has zero gun control, than Chicago.

    And FYI, I’ve lived in a concealed carry state for 12 years now. Every Billy Bob is carrying a gun. Crime is still increasing here and I felt safer back in Illinois. At least back there only a fraction of the nuts were armed. Out here they all are.

  15. SNuss

    Ted, If some of the articles that I have read are correct, if Illinois doesn’t pass a concealed-carry law by July 9, this is what will happen:

    If the legislature doesn’t come up with a new concealed-carry law, the effect would be that there’s no law restricting it — anyone with a Firearm Owners Identification Card could carry a concealed weapon or walk down the street carrying an AR-15.

    Read more here: http://www.bnd.com/2012/12/11/2424382/federal-appeals-court-orders-state.html#storylink=cpy

    • Ted Biondo

      Snuss, that’s my impression also. So if the legislature doesn’t override the Gov’s amendatory veto in both houses of the general Assembly on Tuesday the first day of this special session, Illinois will have Constitutional conceal and carry, no limits.

  16. SNuss

    Oh, would the gun-grabbing Leftists howl, if that happened. It would serve them right, for all the political games they have been playing with this issue.

  17. SNuss

    On a related note (see the next-to-last paragraph), I thought I’d pass this along:

    Attributed to Jeff Foxworthy:

    If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you MUST show your identification to board an airplane, cash a check, buy liquor, or check out a library book and rent a video, but not to vote for who runs the government — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If the government wants to prevent stable, law-abiding citizens from owning gun magazines that hold more than ten rounds, but gives twenty F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but not one 24-ounce soda, because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make you fat — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl who is confined to a wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman in a burka or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more government regulation and intrusion, while not working is rewarded with Food Stamps, WIC checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing, and free cell phones — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to provide incentives for not working, by granting 99 weeks of unemployment checks, without any requirement to prove that gainful employment was diligently sought, but couldn’t be found — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big-screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, time shares, a wall-sized do-it-all plasma screen TV and new cars, and the government forgives his debt when he defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If being stripped of your Constitutional right to defend yourself makes you more “safe” according to the government — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    What a country! How about we give God a reason to continue blessing America!

  18. Glad I left the state 3 years ago. Yes where I live you can carry 1 gun or 10 it does’t matter. We have the 51% rule here, so I don’t visit those establisments where I can’t carry. In fact anyone in the state can carry without a license in their vehicale a conceal pistol. If I want to carry a loaded rifle in the car I can and do so in plain sight. The problem is Democrats and those particularly in Chicago. They want to keep the poor, poor, the downtrodden, trodden and those stuck in housing projects, still stuck in them. They are afraid of freedom is what it boils down to. They might lose their voting base which vote for them because they feel like to have to have their help to survive. Sadly it’s due to the democrats that they are kept downtrodden. Have to tell you folks, if you can’t change Illinois, then pack up and leave. It was the best thing I did, sorry I waited so long.

  19. Juice

    1000% correct, Dave. Just keep them in a hole and spoon feed them until it’s time to vote again. Sad these people don’t have a chance.

  20. Brian Opsahl

    Not sure where it is Dave lives….but Illinois is a fine State to live and raise a family if gun laws determine where you live then your problems are way differant than what State you should live in Dave.

    You sound like a one issue voter and thats fine it’s your choice. But there is way more important things to consider when picking a State to live in then how it’s gun laws are..?

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